I think the problem isn't so much that women's looks are "brought into
things". It's more that everybody else's aren't. Morton Feldman for instance
was one fat ugly fuck who made beautiful music, and also had a large
(satisfied) sexual appetite. I think it might be instructional to look back at
ancient Athens, where the measure of the man took into consideration all
aspects of that which made the man - 'body' included (It could be argued that
it is around this time 600-400B.C. that the body/mind split was being
engineered for the first time, at least as it is now perceived in the west).
WHAT IS MUSIC ANYWAY, BUT A BUNCH OF BODIES AFFECTED. I know I'll get flamed
for being all over the place with this one, but I don't care because this is
just a little post to a little list called IDM. My point; the general state of
erotophobia in western society blows out of proportion the importance of
female 'proportions', while suppressing the appreciation of the beauty of the
male body. So that everything is quite lopsided, and understandably feminism
and other 'radical' ways of thinking have taken this to be problematic. The
danger is to react with a jerking knee. I liked Irene McC's post a little
while back where she talked about Ae's high cheek bones, because there wasn't
an ounce of puritanism in it. (I hope I have that right Irene, was it you?).
First error: we and our works are somehow 'metaphysically' separate from our
'bodies'. Second error: (and the scourge of the Platonic/JudeoChristian axis)
Taking this new found 'body' and trampling on it. Everybody does it,
Feminists, Nazis, IDMers, Christians, Sugarsmiths, Plumbers. People, dick or
no dick, are always just a body doing something, or a body to which something
is being done. Today for instance, I was the latter, and the sky is bright.
Christophe
quoted 23 lines it's so fucking depressing that you have to bring her fucking looks into
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> >it's so fucking depressing that you have to bring her fucking looks into
> >things... when will girls/women/people with no dicks ever get a chance to
> >do
> >anything without their fucking bodies being something to do with it along
> >the way?!
> >
> >it's not even feminism tho, just human rights or something... i can't
> >belive
> >that all that gets talked about on this so-called "intelligent" list is
> >girls' looks and schoolkid acronyms.
> >
> >i bet you are all on teh verge on 30 wishing it was 89 again so you could
> >pop some and e and have a rave. sadoldhasbeens.
> >
> >sorry. i don't wanyt to offend anyone (really? maybe not.. hmm..) i don't
> >know you, but just stick to music and keep people's looks/weight/tits out
> >of
> >it! how many people do you hear going; "oh that stockhausen composition is
> >quite nice, shame he's a hairy minger innit!?"?
> >
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