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(idm) RE: Mixing with IDM: Staying true to the style.

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1999-12-21 01:55Fred Brendecke (idm) RE: Mixing with IDM: Staying true to the style.
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1999-12-21 01:55Fred BrendeckeAt one point I myself had only partial insight into the limits of pure beat mixing (its pr
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(idm) RE: Mixing with IDM: Staying true to the style.
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At one point I myself had only partial insight into the limits of pure beat mixing (its pretty obvious that cutting & scratching has alot of wild possibilities), until I met someone who spun exclusively, IDM. He'd phase the songs together, on the right measure, close to the beginning of the song, if not BOTH RECORDS at the beginning of each song! He'd point out how the songs "where meant for eachother", and would proceed to keep the mix going for MOST of the song before switching records, fading a little quicker, until it was time to go into the next long phase mix. Its pretty hard to pull off without at least minimal whine from pitch-microadjustment (theres a product from Vinyl Touch distributed by Stanton that supposedly will adjust the frequency to tune out all the pitch whine, which sounds like it would be an excellent device if you plan on performing such ultra-long mixes) Never the less, the results of these long mixes was one of the most mind altering experiences I've ever had listening to music. A good mix DJ will bring about those uncanny extrasensory perceptions in the audience, although a crowd capable of tolerating crunchy IDM beats is hard to find. I, at one time, challenged my friend by saying: " your music is fucking great dude, your mixing is like no live party-DJ's that I've seen... but what would you spin on the mainfloor?? this IDM stuff is too hard or too slow for alot of people". He then ever so assertively slapped SKA 005 Bola - "Krak Jakomo" - on to the platter, and said (not so humbly) "tell me what you'd think if you heard this on the mainfloor"... I just smiled at the thought... There'd no doubt be a body pop or three! "Theres no excuse for not staying true to the style" - was my friends final rebuttal. I'm putting together my own New Years Eve set, as hope to throw in as much IDM as possible (dont ask me how but I found my own copy of ska005!), while including some more ethereal "eye-shuddering breaks" later on for the E crowd. I've since learned to do the same long style of mixing on my own Technics, which will provide the precision needed if you wish to take mixing to the extreme I've just discussed. Make sure your needles are fresh and transmitting perfect sound. Invest in the cleanest sounding Studio Monitors / Amp / Headphones you can afford, you will need them. Electro and trance dont require such a refined sound system, but with IDM you must be able to notice wether the beats are "fitting together" perfectly, its sounds so amazing when you've got two crisp, complex beats right on point, with sine waves reflecting and shimmering all over the room! Ambient string sounds and such also build up together, combine, and resonate oh so beautifully at times. The effect of using IDM music to learn how to DJ cannot be understated. DJing effectively requires you learn to pay attention to the full measure of the beat, so the songs weave in and out of each other and break at the same time. At first this may seem difficult, but you'll eventually develop a sixth sense for it and you'll just know when to bring in the other beat, your audience will be amazed at how you got the songs to "talk to each other", or break down/build up as one. Another phenomena, is that by not always having obvious cues such as a snare on the three count or non-stop high hat, you'll learn to tune in to a "deeper rhythym". You'll later find that both locating tracks with compatible BPMs and mixing "normal" electro/trance got whole alot easier all of the sudden. I could go on, but I'll stop here... forgive the lengthy response, but this is interesting! Any other seasoned DJs or Wannabe's please add or comment! Phred --------------------------------------------------------------- p s y l e n c e ~ http://www.eternalmoment.com/psy/