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I can't speak for Grant at Rephlex, but as a person who runs a label I can certainly understand why people release limited editions of records. When you press up a record the fact is your tying up a good deal of your money. Obviously this increases with the more records you press. Next you sell to your distributors on 30 or 60 day terms. Most distributors are well meaning, but ask any label how prompt most are with payments... Fact is, your lucky if you see any money back on a release for close to 90 days. If your a small label this can cripple your release schedule for 3 months if you do a large run on a release. I personally would rather put out more releases than just flog one for that long. How about not dissing labels for this until you've tryed to run your own. As for all the childish fighting shit going down, I've got better things to do than delete these messages. Discreetly Wig Discreet / Indiscreet Music : The Sound of Music Updated by the Music of Sound

On Tue, 2 Jul 1996, Discreet wrote:

quoted 12 lines I can't speak for Grant at Rephlex, but as a person who runs a label I can

> I can't speak for Grant at Rephlex, but as a person who runs a label I can > certainly understand why people release limited editions of records. When > you press up a record the fact is your tying up a good deal of your money. > Obviously this increases with the more records you press. Next you sell to > your distributors on 30 or 60 day terms. Most distributors are well > meaning, but ask any label how prompt most are with payments... Fact is, > your lucky if you see any money back on a release for close to 90 days. If > your a small label this can cripple your release schedule for 3 months if > you do a large run on a release. I personally would rather put out more > releases than just flog one for that long. How about not dissing labels for > this until you've tryed to run your own. As for all the childish fighting > shit going down, I've got better things to do than delete these messages.

That's a good point! I am glad that you mentioned that. I never saw it from that angle before.

i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94" and realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me forget entirely about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more than 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months back. i assume he's put out more material resembling this limited editions material? if so, i would most dearly like to know what to look into. thanks - --- .brian --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

It is really good and has much softer and ambint feel than his later works. It was my first album by him and still is the most favorite one. Others I have: Generation Starwars" and "Hypermodern Jazz 2000.5" are different from this one definetely. Alien.

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Hulick Frank B. [mailto:HULICKFB1@GCC.EDU] > Sent: Sunday, December 12, 1999 5:55 AM > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org' > Subject: (idm) limited editions > > > i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94" and > realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me > forget entirely > about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening > to more than > 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months > back. > i assume he's put out more material resembling this limited editions > material? if so, i would most dearly like to know what to look into. > thanks > > > - --- .brian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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In a message dated 12/12/99 3:02:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!, HULICKFB1@GCC.EDU writes: << i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94" and realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me forget entirely about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more than 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months back. i assume he's put out more material resembling this limited editions material? if so, i would most dearly like to know what to look into. thanks >> Yeah, he put out an album with a french name called l'etoiles de something or other, I believe it was put out on DHR, but my link to that page seems outdated. There were also a couple of other early albums under Alec's name in the early DHR days of 94 and 95, they're not particularly rare, not particularly good though. Sorry I can't be more specific. BTW, the destroyer rocks. ---The Objector has spoken.--- "The goal of any writer is to acknowledge the numeric, programmed basis of his mind, and then supercede it. First one must explore the agonizing limits of patterns, their octahedral vultures and box-shaped emotions. After patterns are mastered, we seep into the mist of the patternless, passing through the thickest and thinnest of atmospheres. At each stage, patterns and non-patterns are grafted atop and within the gray matter of one's mind. At the nova point of summation the scar heals, erupts and bleeding anarchy blossoms like a larval butterfly." -The Objector October 6, 1999 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

----- Original Message ----- From: Hulick Frank B. <HULICKFB1@GCC.EDU> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 1999 6:55 PM Subject: (idm) limited editions

quoted 2 lines i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94" and

> i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94" and > realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me forget

entirely

quoted 1 line about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more

> about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more

than

quoted 5 lines 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months

> 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months > back. > i assume he's put out more material resembling this limited editions > material? if so, i would most dearly like to know what to look into. > thanks

It does sound different from alot of things he's done, but there are moments on Generation Star Wars that are kinda in that direction Rob --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line Yeah, he put out an album with a french name called l'etoiles de

> Yeah, he put out an album with a french name called l'etoiles de

something or

quoted 2 lines other, I believe it was put out on DHR, but my link to that page seems

> other, I believe it was put out on DHR, but my link to that page seems > outdated.

"les etoiles des filles morts" Empire released some solo material before Atari Teenage Riot in "Force, Inc." from Frankfurt. He released some records also on "Mille Plateaux". Now he has created a new label, "Zeit" where he released a solo triple-album. None of his solo stuff is on DHR. F. ----------

quoted 6 lines De: Magicnerd8@aol.com

> De: Magicnerd8@aol.com > A: HULICKFB1@gcc.edu; idm@hyperreal.org > Asunto: Re: (idm) limited editions > Fecha: Domingo 12 de Diciembre de 1999 12:20 AM > > In a message dated 12/12/99 3:02:52 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

HULICKFB1@GCC.EDU

quoted 3 lines writes:

> writes: > > << i found myself listening to Alec Empire - "limited editions 1990-94"

and

quoted 1 line realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me forget

> realised what a absolutely wonderful cd this is. it makes me forget

entirely

quoted 1 line about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more

> about the pounding migraine headache i still had from listening to more

than

quoted 7 lines 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months

> 5 songs in a row off his Destroyer digital hardcore release a few months > back. > i assume he's put out more material resembling this limited editions > material? if so, i would most dearly like to know what to look into. > thanks >> > > Yeah, he put out an album with a french name called l'etoiles de

something or

quoted 2 lines other, I believe it was put out on DHR, but my link to that page seems

> other, I believe it was put out on DHR, but my link to that page seems > outdated. There were also a couple of other early albums under Alec's

name

quoted 8 lines in the early DHR days of 94 and 95, they're not particularly rare, not

> in the early DHR days of 94 and 95, they're not particularly rare, not > particularly good though. Sorry I can't be more specific. > > BTW, the destroyer rocks. > > ---The Objector has spoken.--- > > "The goal of any writer is to acknowledge the numeric, programmed basis

of

quoted 1 line his mind, and then supercede it. First one must explore the agonizing

> his mind, and then supercede it. First one must explore the agonizing

limits

quoted 3 lines of patterns, their octahedral vultures and box-shaped emotions. After

> of patterns, their octahedral vultures and box-shaped emotions. After > patterns are mastered, we seep into the mist of the patternless, passing > through the thickest and thinnest of atmospheres. At each stage,

patterns

quoted 1 line and non-patterns are grafted atop and within the gray matter of one's

> and non-patterns are grafted atop and within the gray matter of one's

mind.

quoted 1 line At the nova point of summation the scar heals, erupts and bleeding

> At the nova point of summation the scar heals, erupts and bleeding

anarchy

quoted 7 lines blossoms like a larval butterfly."

> blossoms like a larval butterfly." > > -The Objector October 6, 1999 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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In a message dated 12/12/99 2:11:09 PM Central Standard Time, ingrassia@arnet.com.ar writes:

quoted 2 lines Now he has created a new label, "Zeit" where he released a solo

> Now he has created a new label, "Zeit" where he released a solo > triple-album.

I believe the label is called GEIST, he has released the triple album which is a collection of tracks from the Mille Plateaux releases and a few unreleased before tracks, it's quite good, and he has also released stuff from Like A Tim, Rope, and She Satellites, aka Nic Endo from ATR. Hope that helped someone. <N> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

In a message dated 12/12/99 3:20:58 PM Central Standard Time, ingrassia@arnet.com.ar writes:

quoted 1 line "Rope" is a groop that worths checking out.

> "Rope" is a groop that worths checking out.

I was wondering if they were, I will check them out. <N> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines "Rope" is a groop that worths checking out.

>> "Rope" is a groop that worths checking out. > >I was wondering if they were, I will check them out.

I believe ol' Janek (Siegle) has a new alb. in the works, woz originally slated for a January release on Geist, has been pushed back a few months on account of Sir Alec's waffle-ish-ness re:the track listing. The few tracks I've heard are brilliant, almost nothing like the tracks from 'Rope Hotel' but still retaining that aqueous sub-haze that made it so palatable. He's done at least one killer remix over the last few months, be on the lookout for more activity from this guy in the near future... -Våt ____________________ Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge PO BOX 382864. Cambridge, MA 02238 http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket/index.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org