Guai Lo wrote:
quoted 4 lines i would find thinking that there is some mythical form of music that is
> >i would find thinking that there is some mythical form of music that is
> >universally good much more irrational. do you believe in santa claus
> >too? the tooth fairy?
> Um.. you're getting a little surreal for me here..
'abstract' is the word you're looking for. your argument is in fact
technically closer to surrealism.
quoted 2 lines I didn't say anything
> I didn't say anything
> about a 'form' of music much less a mythical form of music.
you said that there was bad music & good music, which exactly amounts to
what i've translated your sentence to say.
quoted 3 lines You're
> You're
> obviously too caught up in the genre to understand what I meant by good and
> bad music.
caught up in what genre? idm? i feel like i've been mostly into
electroacoustics recently, but if you say so...
quoted 5 lines If you are one of these people that thinks just because some
> If you are one of these people that thinks just because some
> untalented hack that can afford a Kurzweil and a drum machine rips an mp3 of
> his "work" consisting of 10 minutes of improvised nonsense with no
> structure, theme, or direction, then I guess you'll never understand the
> point I was trying to make.
i understand the point you're trying to make, otherwise i wouldn't have
deconstructed it into something else. as for the 10 minutes of
improvised nonsense, whether you'll end up liking it or not has more to
do with psychology than musical theory. 'good' music in the musical
theory sense may amount to something, but it has nothing to do with how
enjoyable any given person will think it is.
another problem with your argument is that it doesn't apply to any
statistically relevant real-world situation. how often do you think
someone just goes & release what they think is crap? so even those 10
minutes of nonsense have to please _someone_, even if it's the guy who
made them.
additionally, you seem to be a bit biased against 'improvisation' &
musical nonsense. can you imagine that such music can be analyzed &
celebrated just as much as can sheet music that took its composer 10
years to get done with?
spontaneity in music is certainly undervalued by 'scholars', but it
doesn't make it bad. isn't it brian eno who admired music made by total
non-musicians, if only for the impressive range of imagination displayed
in it? there's no way we can say it's inherently _bad_ just because the
guy can't play.
quoted 2 lines I don't claim to be some kind of music scholar,
> I don't claim to be some kind of music scholar,
> but I know slop when I hear it.
& that shall be, forever, your sole & mere opinion & nothing else. no
matter how huge the book you'll write to prove that wrong.
quoted 6 lines in the case of aol.com users, this generalization is unfortunately right
> >in the case of aol.com users, this generalization is unfortunately right
> >90% of the time.
> Gee, if I apply that logic to any other group of people, it's probably
> considered racism, homophobia, nationalism, or chauvinism. Unless you
> personally spoke to each user of AOL, maybe you should keep your 'stats' to
> yourself or you could possibly come off as an elitist bigot.
right, i'll just disregard 6 years of dealing with them on the internet
so as to make you politically-correctly happy.
quoted 6 lines as for the artists who dread such criticism: take it lightly. most
> >> >as for the artists who dread such criticism: take it lightly. most
> >> >people don't know the first thing about what you do even if you sell 5
> >> >million copies ~ hell, _especially_ if you sell 5 million copies.
> >> I'm with you on this one.
> >too bad, because i pulled that out of my ass.
> I'm not surprised.
i have to say i shouldn't have said something so gratuitous, but i'm
having a rather stupid day.
~ david
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