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On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, AXION Software (Paul Palse) wrote:

quoted 4 lines I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen"

> I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 !

Damn! You beat me to it. I was just gonna post about this myself. :)

quoted 1 line Has this been done before ???

> Has this been done before ???

Yup. Off-hand, I can think of a Monty Python album and a De La Soul 12" that used the "two grooves starting from the beginning of the record" gimmick. This may be the first IDM-related record to do so, though. Greg

Yeah, I've got a Soup Dragons 12" with the "double groove" on both sides. Interesting concept. Dumb idea. Shitty songs. -Ma'er... On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, AXION Software (Paul Palse) wrote:

quoted 8 lines I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen"

> I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > Has this been done before ??? > >

it has been done before, yes, but it's not done that often. a recent batch of techno and electro out of Detroit has used this pressing process. PS please post to idm@hyperreal.org and *not* idm-digest@hyperreal.org and *not both of them (which sometimes is done)* (anything posted to idm@hyperreal.org automatically ends up in the digest, but just posting to the idm-digest... address itself or posting to both makes things screwy for everyone). Thanks. Andrew :) "AXION Software (Paul Palse)" wrote:

quoted 6 lines I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen"

> I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > Has this been done before ???

quoted 9 lines On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, AXION Software (Paul Palse) wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, AXION Software (Paul Palse) wrote: > > > I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The > > Two Lone Swordsmen" is one impressive piece of vinyl > > pressing. The two songs appear to be recorded over > > the full length of the 7" but depending on which > > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > > > Has this been done before ???

As many have pointed out, it certianly has. Two others I can think of are Garbage's "Only Happy When It Rains" (the two B-sides are interwoven) and the Sugarcubes "Regina" (on one of the many releases of this single, not sure which one). NP: Crunch-Ø-Matic - Caution: Do Not Play -- Adam J Weitzman NewsEdge Corporation sleepy people | network down http://www.newsedge.com http://www.newspage.com

wasnt this done in the last couple of weeks with a bunch of detroit 12's? a friend of mine at gramaphone in chicago said there were some of the 'double-groove' releases pressed for axis, matrix, v-max and a couple of others. cl

quoted 9 lines I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen"

> > > I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > > > Has this been done before ??? > > > >

Yes, a lot of the recent Detroit records are using "X2" mastering, done by Ron Murphy of NSC (www.soundenterprises.com). I know UR, V-Max, Interdimensional Transmissions (the new Ectomorph record) and others have "X2" mastering. Check out the list of labels mastered at NSC - it's pretty impressive. Ron Murphy has had some sort of impact a lot of the Detroit techno past & present. Bill / dj marathon cl wrote:

quoted 16 lines wasnt this done in the last couple of weeks with a bunch of detroit 12's?

> > wasnt this done in the last couple of weeks with a bunch of detroit 12's? > a friend of mine at gramaphone in chicago said there were some of the > 'double-groove' releases pressed for axis, matrix, v-max and a couple of others. > > cl > > > > > > I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > > > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > > > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > > > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > > > > > Has this been done before ??? > > > > > >

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and Heath Brunner from Vmax is working at NSC now too. andrew William Van Loo wrote:

quoted 31 lines Yes, a lot of the recent Detroit records are using "X2" mastering, done by Ron

> Yes, a lot of the recent Detroit records are using "X2" mastering, done by Ron > Murphy of NSC (www.soundenterprises.com). I know UR, V-Max, Interdimensional > Transmissions (the new Ectomorph record) and others have "X2" mastering. > > Check out the list of labels mastered at NSC - it's pretty impressive. Ron > Murphy has had some sort of impact a lot of the Detroit techno past & present. > > Bill / dj marathon > > cl wrote: > > > > wasnt this done in the last couple of weeks with a bunch of detroit 12's? > > a friend of mine at gramaphone in chicago said there were some of the > > 'double-groove' releases pressed for axis, matrix, v-max and a couple of others. > > > > cl > > > > > > > > > I just want to let you all know that Slut Smalls by "The Two Lone Swordsmen" > > > > is one impressive piece of vinyl pressing. The two songs appear to > > > > be recorded over the full length of the 7" but depending on which > > > > of the 2 grooves you hit it plays song 1 or 2 ! > > > > > > > > Has this been done before ??? > > > > > > > > > > -- > Sigma6 Interactive Media / http://www.sigma6.com > > http://www.citydetroit.com

quoted 3 lines Yup. Off-hand, I can think of a Monty Python album and a De La Soul 12"

>Yup. Off-hand, I can think of a Monty Python album and a De La Soul 12" >that used the "two grooves starting from the beginning of the record" >gimmick. This may be the first IDM-related record to do so, though.

ha, i knew you were a monty python fan. i still remember your biosphere review: "pining for the fjords" and: anyone (northamericans) see our beloved FatBoySlim on the Late Late Show last night? i couldn't get around the fact that the host kept referring to him as fatboyslim rather than normon cook. anyhow, it's good to see that my/our thoughts on him aren't without reason. this boy is clue-less. and: seeing that this list has such a large number Christina Ricci fans, she was on jay leno last night as well. i've got to wonder: where the hell did THOSE come from? she's just a little girl! tomas

On Thu, 17 Jun 1999, Tomas Jirku wrote:

quoted 2 lines ha, i knew you were a monty python fan. i still remember your biosphere

> ha, i knew you were a monty python fan. i still remember your biosphere > review: "pining for the fjords"

Christ, even *I* didn't remember writing that. You frighten me sometimes, Tomas. :) Given the fact that the majority of IDM listeners seem to be geeky whiteboys, I expect there's a pretty high crossover with Python fans as well.

quoted 3 lines and: seeing that this list has such a large number Christina Ricci fans,

> and: seeing that this list has such a large number Christina Ricci fans, > she was on jay leno last night as well. i've got to wonder: where the > hell did THOSE come from? she's just a little girl!

My sweetie was on TV and I *missed* it? Damn. And yeah, I know what you mean. She was such a skinny little thing in those Addam's Family movies. Who would've thunk that she'd become so... very. Yoink. Greg

quoted 3 lines Yup. Off-hand, I can think of a Monty Python album and a De La Soul 12"

>Yup. Off-hand, I can think of a Monty Python album and a De La Soul 12" >that used the "two grooves starting from the beginning of the record" >gimmick. This may be the first IDM-related record to do so, though.

Now what people need to do is push this idea further: do an album like this, with like 5-8 songs per side, and do them all in parallel tracks. I think that having a hip-hop 12" double-grooved like that would be a problem for DJs, like if your needle slips (heaven forbid!) you could end up playing a wholde different track. Or maybe that'd be an easy way to do transitions. (heh)

quoted 3 lines and: anyone (northamericans) see our beloved FatBoySlim on the Late Late

>and: anyone (northamericans) see our beloved FatBoySlim on the Late Late >Show last night? i couldn't get around the fact that the host kept >referring to him as fatboyslim rather than normon cook.

I was really surprised to hear him with a british accent. I guess cos he looks like a washed-up surfer, i expected him to sound californian. Stupid me. I though it was funny when Norman played one of the host's favorite songs by pressing a button on his computer. I thought he did a decent job of explaining to the clueless host how he actually makes music. "If you sample a whole song, you have to pay for it, but if you just sample a little bit, no one will know" or something like that. oh, just to blow my IDM cred, i just got "You've come..." and i'm digging it.

quoted 2 lines anyhow, it's good to see that my/our thoughts on him aren't without reason.

>anyhow, it's good to see that my/our thoughts on him aren't without reason. >this boy is clue-less.

Fatboy slim? Clueless? I think he's made an album of the best party songs since Biggie died. Though Fatboy is far from IDM, more like really good SDM (S="stupid").

quoted 2 lines (Christina Ricci) i've got to wonder: where the

>(Christina Ricci) i've got to wonder: where the >hell did THOSE come from? she's just a little girl!

Please... of all the off-topic tangents to get onto, drooling (like this) is by far the worst. _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu University of Idaho / Moscow / ID / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "Because success needs killing" TRICKY