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Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax flames as we speak) Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45? Graham

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> -----Original Message----- > From: martin wood [SMTP:martin.wood@advent-comm.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 1999 4:55 PM > To: talking in circles > Subject: Re: (idm) vinyl > > definitely, music is subjective anyway....im looking forward to the > integration > of java into embedded systems, so that you can write your own > controller for > digital (and analogue as well, i spose) devices...being able to tweak > the > cd-players error correction algorithm has got to be a good thing... > sorry ....going off on one a bit.... > > david turgeon wrote: > > > > its a shame that record players dont all come with a 25 rpm mode > or > > > something, cos loads of stuff sounds much better slow...like > in-sync : the > > > calling....absolutely amazing at 33...(cheers graham) > > > > i've seen an old turntable that came with 16 rpm & (obviously) 78 > rpm > > switches, as well as the usual 33/45 combo. however, its sound is > > pretty damn crappy & the thing cannot really used for anything other > > than noise, so i don't know if there's specific models which can > still > > be used today. however, it makes some records sound quite > > outerworldish. an old womack & womack 45, for example, can sound > quite > > dark & menacing at 16 rpm. > > > > & as for 78, that's instant drum n bass or instant hardcore for ya. > > > > i'm beginning to think that no one should put the "right" bpm on > > abstract electronic records. it's always so subject to > interpretation. > > plus it's like having 2 records in one (or 4 if you have the 16/78 > > switch). > > > > -- > > david turgeon at http://www.notype.com

On Tue, 25 May 1999, Graham Voice wrote:

quoted 7 lines Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a

> > Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a > very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys > track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a > specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as > a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax > flames as we speak)

stock, hausen and walkmen did this. I beleive it was only released as a 7 inch single. It was done for a sound installation. I have been meaning to get this..

quoted 2 lines Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45?

> Question - The Two Lone Swordsmen mix of Ganger's Trilogy, 33 or 45? >

I think I play this at 45. Will have to check tonight.. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

quoted 10 lines Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a

> > Talking about messed up record speeds I was tempted the other day by a > > very interesting item. Basically someone had taken an old Beach Boys > > track (Good Vibrations if memory serves) and played it at 1 rpm on a > > specially adapted turntable. The resultant "noise" was then released as > > a CD album, sounding a bit like Pee Namlook no doubt. (Awaiting Anti-Fax > > flames as we speak) > > stock, hausen and walkmen did this. I beleive it was only released as a 7 > inch single. It was done for a sound installation. I have been meaning > to get this..

I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we plunked it down. It's not recorded all that well or something, but it's not very interesting. I was really disappointed, since I had heard such good things about SH&W. However, I realize it's a concept piece so I can't judge them based on that. Packaging is really cool, though. Oh, and the B-side is at 2 rpm.

Andrew Hime wrote:

quoted 9 lines I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we

> I've heard it. Have a friend who has it, and he brought it over and we > plunked it down. It's not recorded all that well or something, but it's > not very interesting. I was really disappointed, since I had heard such > good things about SH&W. However, I realize it's a concept piece so I can't > judge them based on that. Packaging is really cool, though. > > Oh, and the B-side is at 2 rpm. > >

this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations: SH&W-My Bag CD/LP SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch Dummy Run - self titled CD* SH&W-brocoloi 7 inch SH&W-7 inch release on slut smalls with a killer anthony childs song on the flip side. *dummy run is either an alias for sh&w or parts of sh&w are involved. Either way it is great. what they do with the sampler is amazing. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

quoted 1 line SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch

> SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch

i've seen that & was intrigued by the package--"there's nothing in it." how does it sound?

quoted 1 line Dummy Run - self titled CD*

> Dummy Run - self titled CD*

& don't forget "ice cream headache". drum n bass never was that off the wall. or something. for all i know. :) -- david turgeon at http://www.notype.com

On Tue, 25 May 1999, david turgeon wrote:

quoted 5 lines SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch

> > SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch > > i've seen that & was intrigued by the package--"there's nothing in it." > how does it sound? >

very similar to my bag (in fact a couple of the tracks are on the my bag album) but it is perhaps a little more techno oriented. However, it is definitely twisted.

quoted 5 lines Dummy Run - self titled CD*

> > Dummy Run - self titled CD* > > & don't forget "ice cream headache". drum n bass never was that off the > wall. or something. for all i know. :) >

Forgot about that one. It is another solid release. Perhaps not as good as the other dummy run CD but good none the less. -daniel Head Monkey Mad Monkey Records http://monkey.eliteware.com

i think people like us is quite good...see "the fuckest uppest" m/j *** ** ** * * * ** * * * * * http://www.enteract.com/~egoiste On 25 May 1999, cl wrote:

quoted 15 lines this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations:

> > > this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations: > > > also- 'giving up with stock,hausen and walkman'. > plus tracks on blip,bleep and the diskono > white/blue 7's. > more cutup, samples and general oddities. this > was the first one i got, and i had to pick > up the rest as quickly as possible. i dont know > if there are other individuals/groups in the same > ballpark, but i doubt anyone is doing it as well. > > cl >

question... would people around here be interested in helping me piece together a stock, hausen, & walkman. discography (w/ track listings, etc.) maybe one for the hot air label as well. I've got a couple of their discs, but not enough, considering they have a fairly large amount of releases. There doesn't seem to be any good resources for them on the web, and i'd be up for putting one up. i guess, if you have a good selection of sh&w rekkids please e-mail me with tracks, cat#, etc. thanks. also, this is slightly off topic, yet slightly on, but some (legal) mp3 samples of the long awaited Mr. Bungle album 'California' are online at Web of Mimicry. http://www.humboldt1.com/~mimicry/bungle.htm also, Funckarama is NOT Funkstorung, AFAIK. F'ing did that one remix and that's all. mlt http://multsanta.home.sprynet.com/

quoted 1 line i think people like us is quite good...see "the fuckest uppest"

>i think people like us is quite good...see "the fuckest uppest"

if you're talking about that white 12", i was under the impression that "the fuckest uppest" is a separate act, though "people like us"'s live set at static two weeks ago blurs that possibility slightly..hrm. eric >> > this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations: >>

quoted 8 lines also- 'giving up with stock,hausen and walkman'.

>> also- 'giving up with stock,hausen and walkman'. >> plus tracks on blip,bleep and the diskono >> white/blue 7's. >> more cutup, samples and general oddities. this >> was the first one i got, and i had to pick >> up the rest as quickly as possible. i dont know >> if there are other individuals/groups in the same >> ballpark, but i doubt anyone is doing it as well.

i forgot who posted the question for putting together a disco. for shw, but here is what i have.. (far from complete) as stock, hausen & walkman giving up with stock, hausen & walkman (hot air cat no. qrm cd1) oh my bag! (hot air cat no. qrm cd10) hairballs (hot air cat no. qrm cd11) stop! (live 1995 perfomance) (hot air cat no. qrm cd111) dirty thirty something-split 7' with surgeon (small 003) broccoli/stripper 7' (eerie materials 8)- not positive 'simply' and ''er indoors' (vvmt008 turkey 7') that beach boys thing as dummy run dummy run (bse cd1) a subdivision of hot air? ice cream headache (bse cd002) *interesting sequence 1 -> 002* cl "~(({[Endemic~Distortion]}))~" wrote:

quoted 3 lines Let us not forget "Hairballs" - I think this and "Giving Up..." are ti

> > Let us not forget "Hairballs" - I think this and "Giving Up..." are tied as > my fave SH&Ws, but I REALLY like the s/t Dummy Run, too (imo better than

Let us not forget "Hairballs" - I think this and "Giving Up..." are tied as my fave SH&Ws, but I REALLY like the s/t Dummy Run, too (imo better than "...Headache") jeff cl wrote:

quoted 35 lines this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations:

> > > this is not how stock, hausen and walkman sound. Recommendations: > > > also- 'giving up with stock,hausen and walkman'. > plus tracks on blip,bleep and the diskono > white/blue 7's. > more cutup, samples and general oddities. this > was the first one i got, and i had to pick > up the rest as quickly as possible. i dont know > if there are other individuals/groups in the same > ballpark, but i doubt anyone is doing it as well. > > cl > > > SH&W-My Bag CD/LP > > SH&W-Empty Box 10 Inch > > Dummy Run - self titled CD* > > SH&W-brocoloi 7 inch > > SH&W-7 inch release on slut smalls with a killer anthony childs song on > > the flip side. > > > > > > *dummy run is either an alias for sh&w or parts of sh&w are involved. > > Either way it is great. > > > > > > what they do with the sampler is amazing. > > > > > > > > -daniel > > Head Monkey > > Mad Monkey Records > > http://monkey.eliteware.com

-- jeff "10,000 people all screaming the same thing at the same time are wrong, even if they're right." dancing/about/architecture "...with wandering steps and slow..." ICQ904008