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I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno wierd to me... if you have heard it what's it like? I think it's called No Buildings or something ciao, g -- On the 8th day, God created Electro. "E stands for electro"- Atom Heart. :::unity in diversity:::

quoted 5 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

>I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, >anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno >wierd to me... >if you have heard it what's it like? >I think it's called No Buildings or something

what is this, irc? eric

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999, boomboomkid wrote:

quoted 5 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

> I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, > anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno > wierd to me... > if you have heard it what's it like? > I think it's called No Buildings or something

Newbuild. It's a reissue of their first indie LP from 1988. I've had a CDR of it for a while now (burnt from MP3s of the original LP), and it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work. Greg

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 12:54:35 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 3 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

>I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, >anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno >wierd to me...

quoted 2 lines if you have heard it what's it like?

>if you have heard it what's it like? >I think it's called No Buildings or something

It's not a new LP, but a reissue of one originally released in 1988. It's actually called 'Newbuild' and was one of three slices of vinyl 808 State put out on Creed Records (a label based in a record store that Martin Price, a former member of the band, used to own) around that time. 'Newbuild' is regularly cited as a major influence by the likes of Aphex Twin, Autechre and Squarepusher. It's very dark, moody acid-house -- totally unlike all the other fluffy shite that was doing the rounds at the time. The album has certainly stood the test of time. Whilst all the 808s, 909s and 303s give away its age, it's still just as relevant today, if not more so. Definitely an essential purchase. -- /\/)ark headspin - http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/

--- boomboomkid <galaxey@earthlink.net> wrote:

quoted 5 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

> I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, > anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno > wierd to me... > if you have heard it what's it like? > I think it's called No Buildings or something

GILLY, it's a reissue of a classic 808 State lp. If you look on Artificial Intelligence RDJ lists some 808 State track Acid Flow (or something lie that) as a favorite or something. I have also read in several really OLD interviews about RDJ talking about early 808 State. I guess he felt that this should be reissued. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

Excerpts from mail: 20-Apr-99 Re: (idm) 808WHAT???? by Will Samuels@yahoo.com

quoted 7 lines GILLY, it's a reissue of a classic 808 State lp. If

> GILLY, it's a reissue of a classic 808 State lp. If > you look on Artificial Intelligence RDJ lists some 808 > State track Acid Flow (or something lie that) as a > favorite or something. I have also read in several > really OLD interviews about RDJ talking about early > 808 State. I guess he felt that this should be > reissued.

Funny enough, Tom Jenkinson feels the same way: Bleepbloop: What was the first piece ofequipment you bought? Jenkinson: A Roland SH-101. You know that 808 State album, "Newbuild?" (The famous acid house record with Gerald Simpson, also known as A Guy Called Gerald. He split from the band after this release). I read an interview with them, and that was one of the instruments that they used. I love those like acid-y sounds, so I thought I’d get one of them and muck around with it and try to make some acid tracks. So I bought it, and started making tracks using just SH-101 and bass guitar. :) More interview at http://come.to/bleepbloopweb Aaron

Urp... 808 State's _Newbuild_ is a (some would say _the_) classic British acid house album, recorded back in the days when (A Guy Called) Gerald Simpson was still in the band. It has been out of print, for all intents and purposes, forever, hence a lot of crusty old f*ckers like myself who actually bought _90_ in 1990 are pretty excited about this. Tracks like "Flow Coma" and "Narcossa" still rip, despite being 10 years old. Rephlex are releasing it because they've still got a little taste when they choose to exercise it... -d.w. boomboomkid wrote:

quoted 13 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

> I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, > anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno > wierd to me... > if you have heard it what's it like? > I think it's called No Buildings or something > > ciao, > g > > -- > On the 8th day, God created Electro. > "E stands for electro"- Atom Heart. > :::unity in diversity:::

On Tue, 20 Apr 1999 13:58:42 -0700 (PDT) Will Samuels <w_technoir@yahoo.com> writes:

quoted 7 lines GILLY, it's a reissue of a classic 808 State lp. If

>GILLY, it's a reissue of a classic 808 State lp. If >you look on Artificial Intelligence RDJ lists some 808 >State track Acid Flow (or something lie that) as a >favorite or something. I have also read in several >really OLD interviews about RDJ talking about early >808 State. I guess he felt that this should be >reissued.

Close, but the classic track is Flow Coma, and it still stands as 808 State's finest moment. J (aghast with mock horror) np: _Further Mutations_ Lo Recordings Volume 4 ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

At 12:54 PM 4/20/99 -0700, boomboomkid wrote:

quoted 5 lines I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex,

>I just read 808state have an LP on Rephlex, >anyone heard this? Why Rephlex, sounds i dunno >wierd to me... >if you have heard it what's it like? >I think it's called No Buildings or something

Kids today...no sense of history. Oh well, I suppose you were in diapers when it came out. At 05:01 PM 4/20/99 -0400, Greg Clow wrote:

quoted 1 line Newbuild...it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work.

>Newbuild...it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work.

"Pretty good"????? PRETTY GOOD????? Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahhh!!!! Here's what Autechre said about it:

quoted 3 lines (10) 808 state: flow coma

>(10) 808 state: flow coma >"probably the best track in this [top 10] list. shits on everything else, >from a great height."

Che From the archives, children - this list could use some content, even if recycled: From: Daniel.Scruton@uni-konstanz.de (really?) Subject: (idm) autechres top 10 Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 12:18:50 +0000

quoted 4 lines obligatory idm content: autechre revealed their 10 favourite records in spex

>>obligatory idm content: autechre revealed their 10 favourite records in spex >>this month... i'll put it up on the list if anyone's interested >> >Please post it. Thanks!

here goes... a rough translation... (1) mantronix: listen to the bass of get stupid fresh pt 2 this is the direction in which hiphop should have gone. the most contradictory elements are brought together in a way which creates a new organic whole. only rza is still doing comparable stuff, maybe dr. octagon. (2) kraftwerk: it's more fun to compute there's nothing to be said about kraftwerk which hasn't already been said before. but even if we had to do a top ten every month, this track would always be in it. (3) glen velez: bodhran velez only plays percussion on this track. one would probably have to call it jazz, but actually its also a perfect bit of acid. incredible sounds. when we first heard this, we were in despair. we couldn't quite do this with all our instruments, and this guy here only needs a drum. velez plays with rabih abou-khalil and currently teaches in miami. friends of ours live there and want to find out whether we can record anything together. (4) george clinton: atomic dog more sounds which make machines seem organic. the father of everything. (5) aphex twin: digeridoo there was a time when there was only richard. maybe it sounds a little farfetched, but we are listening to quite a bit of stockhausen at the moment and there is a link to richards stuff. both have put together this huge array of machines for their music, have collected incredible resources.even if stockhausen has probably gone mad, things like 'kontakte' point in the direction in which electronic music is developing. today one is interested in the possibilities of the use of composition in electronic music, and one has to realize that stockhausen has already done it all in a perfect way. but then he did have incredibly good conditions to work in. (6) zoviet-france: something this beautiful it could also have been 'white dusk'. - this is music which achieves a strange mixture of harmless surface and murky depths. one is not quite sure which of the two is more important and whether it would be worse if the music stopped or if it went on forever. other people who manage something like this are coil and angelo badalamenti. (7) boards of canada: box maxma it's a shame we can't pick demos. the best new electronic music is to be found on demos today. since the interest of the mainstream has shifted to drum'n'bass things have been getting better again. the kids don't hope to get signed and do whatever they feel like doing. but this track here isn't bad either. (8) stock hausen & walkman: organ transplant the master thieves. they, too, manage to combine parts in way which seems totally impossible but feels inevitable at the same time. and they steal from musicians who stole from other musicians who died in poverty. (9) just-ice: cold getting dumb a mantronix production. of course the rap also works as rap, but you've got to listen to the way he chops the rhythm track to shreds and weaves it together with the rap. the words become machine. (10) 808 state: flow coma probably the best track in this list. shits on everything else, from a great height. "Every fart has some kind of smell, and we cannot say that all Soviet farts smell sweet." - Mao Tse-tung to the Supreme Soviet, 1956

quoted 2 lines Newbuild...it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work.

> >Newbuild...it's pretty good stuff if you like 808's early work. > "Pretty good"????? PRETTY GOOD????? Bwahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaahhh!!!!

Newbuild has great historical significance, I'll concede, I mean, - Gerald Simpson was a prominent member of the band - how many other acid house ALBUMS were there at the end of 1988? - how much acid house music at that time was so very Acid and so barely House? However, on its own musical merit, I think it's a bit overrated. "Flow Coma" and "Narcossa" are exceptional, but the other 5 cuts are not nearly as thrilling, and taken as a whole, the album doesn't belong in any trophy cases. Just my humble opinion.

On Thu, 22 Apr 1999 18:38:24 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

quoted 4 lines However, on its own musical merit, I think it's a bit overrated. "Flow

>However, on its own musical merit, I think it's a bit overrated. "Flow >Coma" and "Narcossa" are exceptional, but the other 5 cuts are not nearly >as thrilling, and taken as a whole, the album doesn't belong in any trophy >cases.

The album's probably had more attention heaped upon it simply because it's been pretty damn rare up until now. I was lucky enough to find a copy back in 1990. Having been used to '90' and 'Quadrastate', 'Newbuild' definitely sounded a bit odd. But over the years it's quickly become obvious that it's had a huge influence on many of today's artists, such as RDJ, Autechre and Squarepusher. If we really want to talk about innovative 808 State albums, then we need to focus on 'Quadrastate'. On this album, every cut is pretty darned excellent. It's a perfect blend of Chicago-influenced techno, Headhunters/Thrust/Sextant-period Herbie Hancock and UK house. -- /\/)ark headspin - http://www.sonance.demon.co.uk/