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(idm) B12 trivia

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1998-05-01 20:03James (idm) B12 trivia
1998-05-02 09:45Che Re: (idm) B12 trivia
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1998-05-01 20:03JamesB12 trivia: when Electro-Soma first came out, either a music mag article or a Warp print a
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01 May 98 13:03:30 -0700
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(idm) B12 trivia
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B12 trivia: when Electro-Soma first came out, either a music mag article or a Warp print ad said B12 made Aphex Twin sound like Kylie Minogue. Err... yeah. I won't write a lengthy me-too, but Electro-Soma is definitely one of my all-time faves. Whether you find the album "boring" might depend on when you first heard it. It was my fourth IDM album back in '91 or '92, after (ahem) Moby, Aphex Twin, and Polygon Window, and I still remember being struck by the simple melodies and the sheer glossy shiny sheen of the album. But if I first picked it up for the first time in 1998 after listening to crazy d'n'b mutations for a year or two, maybe I'd find the drum programming a bit simplistic. It's like listening to 808 State's ex:el again - don't get me wrong, it's a great album, but whereas I thought San Francisco was a very complex track back when the album came out, nowadays it sounds relatively simple in melody and structure. Cheers, James Jung-Hoon Seo // Oracle Tools Fundamental Technologies Group (650) 506-3829 // jseo@us.oracle.com Endless beats / Paid in sweets
1998-05-02 09:45CheAt 01:03 PM 5/1/98 -0700, James wrote: > >B12 trivia: when Electro-Soma first came out, ei
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At 01:03 PM 5/1/98 -0700, James wrote:
quoted 10 lines B12 trivia: when Electro-Soma first came out, either a music mag article or> >B12 trivia: when Electro-Soma first came out, either a music mag article or >a >Warp print ad said B12 made Aphex Twin sound like Kylie Minogue. Err... >yeah. > >I won't write a lengthy me-too, but Electro-Soma is definitely one of my >all-time faves. > >Whether you find the album "boring" might depend on when you first heard it.
I heard it right after hearing Biorhythms 1 & 2, Retro Techno, and a bunch of UR 12"s. Kinda like comparing Def Leppard to Led Zeppelin, huh? In all fairness, the Detroit tracks featured mostly 808 and 909 being worked like mofos; while the B12 sounds like R8 samples of 808s & 909s with no dynamics programmed in. To get the R8 to sound as lively as the 808 or 909 (some would argue an impossible task, but Higher Intelligence Agency fooled me) would have taken quite a bit of work on B12's part, and quite frankly, I think they took the lazy way out. You may like the simplicity of it, but my ears tend to filter out repetition pretty quickly (unless it's black dog style repetition - they seem to be the only ones that get it right). I just can't get past the drum programming, which is what I tend to hear first. I'll take drums over melody any day - melody's been done to death, while sophisticated drum machine programming is a relatively new thing. Back to B12. I like the Time Tourist album better - it sounds like a rehash of the 1st album w/ better drum programming, w/ the exception of the 1st track (a Reload ripoff if there ever was one, doesn't sound like anything else on the album), If you like Time Tourist, you'll probably like Electro-Soma, as long as you're not a nutcase about drum programming. Che