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lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> wrote: referring to Air...

quoted 1 line I mean, do Virgin send out press releases going on about baguettes,

>I mean, do Virgin send out press releases going on about baguettes,

berets, bicycle riders with onions around their necks, and the hotbed of amazing muscial talent such as Ettienne De Crecy, Dimitri From Paris, Kid Loco, Laurent Garnier etc etc who all live in the same house togethe, give each other music making tips and reflect a new wave of French talent <

quoted 3 lines I'll just butt in here to say I've just heard 1 track by Air, and that's

> I'll just butt in here to say I've just heard 1 track by Air, and that's > the one on the 'Super Discount' compilation... oops, can't remember what > it's called.....

This man is a genius! I'd forgotten about this track completely when asking about the Air LP... Silly me!

quoted 2 lines It's dreamy and utterly ravishing, though when I first heard it, it didn't

> It's dreamy and utterly ravishing, though when I first heard it, it didn't > particularly engage me.

Yes, it's a beauty, isn't it! The best track on an overrated comp (I preferred the Motorbass LP for the housey type stuff)...

quoted 2 lines Must be one of them growers cos it's now one of my

> Must be one of them growers cos it's now one of my > 3 favourites off what is a pretty topper compilation.

It's pretty good, but still overrated IMO.

quoted 2 lines Having said that

> Having said that > though, the track's a remix by Etienne de Crecy.

This is true, and probably explains why I didn't think of it before. Anyone know what the original sounds like in comparison? I believe Mr Crecy remixed and used the track on this LP without Air's consent. gb. "Incomplete without pants" - Autechre

i've been living with this album for a week now.i'm glad i didn't post right away because initally i was slightly disappointed.i think this was down to how absurdly eager i was to get my mitts on it. it's been a long time since i have anticipated a records release as keenly as this.it was hearing "modulor" on the heads 2 comp that started it all off for me.then i got "premiers symptomes"(their 3 source 12"s collected on 1 12").fabulous, i couldn't believe i was listening to tracks with tuba solos. anyway "moon safari".it's gorgeous. from the ez listening of "ce matin la" to the 70's glitterstomp of "kelly,watch the stars" it's all good.even the singer/songwriterish "all i need" is wonderful(btw beth hirsch who she?). i would say though that if your defination of idm is a very narrow one or if you think people that listen to the beach boys should be publicly beaten then your not going to like this record.it has guitar on it.and tuba(but only one track,pity). so it's a beautiful record,if not particularly idm, and if you like vocoded vocals this album has heaps of them. oh btw i was looking at sourcelab 3 today,does anyone know if the air track on that (cosmic bird) is any good? what about the rest of the album, worth getting? bye -drew np:plone-press a key

quoted 2 lines oh btw i was looking at sourcelab 3 today,does anyone know if the air

> oh btw i was looking at sourcelab 3 today,does anyone know if the air > track on that (cosmic bird) is any good?

Air's track on Sourcelab 3 is a colaboration with the great Jean Jacques Perry. When I first heard this was going to happen I was fucking ecstatic. I'd loved every single I'd gotten from Air and Jean Jacques is one of the greatest electronic musicians ever. If you STILL haven't heard Moog Indigo you don't know what you are missing. Anyway, the track itself as it materialized on the comp. is not very good at all. Quite medicore, which is sad really cause I was expecting so much more. As long as we are on the subject though, has anyone heard anything about a new full length album from Jean Jacques? I think I read about it awhile ago but haven't heard anything since. I am desperate to get anything by him but all but 2 of his solo albums are looooong out of print (Moog Indigo and The Amazing Electronic Sound... are available on CD from Vanguard). If anyone has any leads on this stuff please speak up, it is impossible to get information (and even harder to get the actual records) on this type of music anywhere. I would give a finger to have some enterprising label put together a boxed set of his recordings. Here is a selected discography for those wondering... Jean-Jacques Perrey (and Gershon Kingsley) research by Desmond K. Hill Prelude to Sleep (France) 1957, 7" 45rpm Soul of a Poet (France) with Charles Trenet & Django Reinhardt, 7" 45rpm Mister Ondioline (France) 1960, Pacific ref. 90.338 B Med, double 7" 45rpm set Sound for Insomniacs (France) 1964. The Happy Moog (US) with Harry Breuer, Pickwick SPC-3160 The In Sound From Way Out (US) 1966, Vanguard VS-79222 Kaleidoscopic Vibrations: Spotlight on the Moog (US) 1967, Vanguard VSD-79264 The Amazing New Electronic Pop Sound of Jean-Jacques Perrey (US) 1967, Vanguard VSD-79286 Moog Indigo (US) 1970, Vanguard VSD-6549 Dynamoog (US) CREA Sound Ltd, Canada 46.532 Moog Sensations (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-25 Moog Expressions (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-26 Moog Vibrations (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-27 Moog Mig Mag Moog (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-35 Moog is Moog (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-106 Kartoonery (France) Montparnasse 2000 MP-131 Makes you want to bang your head into the fucking wall doesn't it? /gonzi./ PS wasn't there someone who was going to steal Dick Hyman albums from their library for me? I'm still interested! write me... :)

At 11:56 1998-01-27 +0000, Drew McDowall wrote:

quoted 4 lines it's worth getting for the original version of EVA alone.

>it's worth getting for the original version of EVA alone. >i have a double album on vanguard(vsd 71/72) called the "essential perrey >and kingsley" it's pretty amazing too.i was told that it had been re-issued >on cd but i haven't come across it.

I've got a promo 12" (Vanguard) of EVA with both the original + two Fatboy Slim mixes. And I've have to say that I'm a sucker for those Fatboy tracks. Wonderful deep grooves and beats. Floorfillers. But let's not pretend otherwise, it's just a ripoff of that old Gang Starr track - my 12" is both (p)'d and (c)'d 1997. That Gang Starr track is dated at least 1983 or something. Well. It's funky as fuck nevertheless. Word, Fe. inf: 908285 | F. ENMARK | SWEDEN = ) - =-= = pop: http://gargamel.com/plod -/ - - - ] www: http://gargamel.com/frankie = -.. =-= = .

quoted 3 lines But let's not pretend otherwise, it's just a ripoff of that old Gang Starr

> But let's not pretend otherwise, it's just a ripoff of that old Gang Starr > track - my 12" is both (p)'d and (c)'d 1997. That Gang Starr track is dated > at least 1983 or something. Well. It's funky as fuck nevertheless.

Bahaha! The original EVA was released in 1970 and has been sampled a million times by everyone from Grang Starr to 311 to the Aphex Twin. I think those Fatboy Slim remixes are shit - EVA is a perfect track and does not need any dressing up with big beats for club kids.

quoted 5 lines As long as we are on the subject though, has anyone heard anything about

> >As long as we are on the subject though, has anyone heard anything about > >a new full length album from Jean Jacques? > > it's called "eklectronics - VINTAGE 97" and apparently the promos have > been sent out out.i dont know which label it's on.

oh fuck! Somebody get me the label info on this! please, please, please... gonXi.

Gonzo, At 05:36 1998-01-27 -0800, you wrote:

quoted 2 lines Bahaha! The original EVA was released in 1970 and has been sampled a

>Bahaha! The original EVA was released in 1970 and has been sampled a >million times by everyone from Grang Starr to 311 to the Aphex Twin. I

Excuse my ignorance then.

quoted 2 lines think those Fatboy Slim remixes are shit - EVA is a perfect track and

>think those Fatboy Slim remixes are shit - EVA is a perfect track and >does not need any dressing up with big beats for club kids.

Still, it's not really the same it it? Besides there is only ONE perfect track ever composed and it's called "Die Mensch Machine". So there. Word, Fe - the "club kid" inf: 908285 | F. ENMARK | SWEDEN = ) - =-= = pop: http://gargamel.com/plod -/ - - - ] www: http://gargamel.com/frankie = -.. =-= = .

quoted 3 lines But let's not pretend otherwise, it's just a ripoff of that old Gang Starr

>> But let's not pretend otherwise, it's just a ripoff of that old Gang Starr >> track - my 12" is both (p)'d and (c)'d 1997. That Gang Starr track is dated >> at least 1983 or something. Well. It's funky as fuck nevertheless.

quoted 2 lines Bahaha! The original EVA was released in 1970 and has been sampled a

>Bahaha! The original EVA was released in 1970 and has been sampled a >million times by everyone from Grang Starr to 311 to the Aphex Twin.

And Roni Size (on the New Forms album - TWICE!), Ice T, and House of Pain (fuck, this was funny!!)

quoted 2 lines I think those Fatboy Slim remixes are shit - EVA is a perfect track and

>I think those Fatboy Slim remixes are shit - EVA is a perfect track and >does not need any dressing up with big beats for club kids.

I didn't mind the remixes, but I agree that the premise behind them was a bit suspect. All that club kids thing and the lucosade ad (my 12" came with a bloody Lucosade sticker on it! I pay for them to advertise on my record - pah I spit in your Lucosade) gb. -- /TheW i http://www.homeusers.prestel.co.uk/lwtcdi/all/ f o L D o dlr WTC "Let's decompose and enjoy assembling!"