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1997-12-23 15:51\[sm\] Subject: (idm) Record Speeds...
1997-12-24 18:47Matt Cuttler Re: Subject: (idm) Record Speeds...
1997-12-25 17:07lwtcdi Re (idm) Record Speeds...
1997-12-25 19:38Matt Cuttler Re: Re (idm) Record Speeds...
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1997-12-23 15:51\[sm\]written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> >Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like p
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written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk>
quoted 4 lines Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct'>Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct' >speed is obviously 45rpm, so I wish the artist/label would cut the >bullshit and stop pretending that Tom J knew what it was going to sound >like at 33rpm when he made it 45rpm.
seem to be playing email ping pong, graham; it's all down to the physical cutting of the record point is an artist does NOT 'make' material at 33 or 45 rpm, what speed a record twirls round at is the result of a decision made at the cutting stage depending on the desired finished sound quality and number of tracks on the project, the original thang as recorded by the artist & mastered on DAT / whatever would *sound the same* pressed @ 45 or 33 optimum is obtained with minimum of grooves on maximum space a rough standard guide for superior reproduction [used by pressing plants] of 12" vinyl, [talking about singles *not* albums] is [max] 9 minutes per side @ 45 rpm and 14 minutes per side @ 33 to state the obvious the more tracks you cram onto a slice of 12" vinyl, the greater deterioration in both loudness, tone & dynamics you can of course cut both sides at different speeds, or different tracks on the same side at different speeds [hello U/R;] [s]m] http://dialspace.dial.pipex.com/mfr "the experimental is now the conventional.the conventional is now the experimental"
1997-12-24 18:47Matt Cuttler[sm] wrote: > > written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> > > >Yeah, but let's face
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quoted 9 lines written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk>> > written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> > > >Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct' > >speed is obviously 45rpm, so I wish the artist/label would cut the > >bullshit and stop pretending that Tom J knew what it was going to sound > >like at 33rpm when he made it 45rpm. > >
Well, I have a David Kristian record on dropbeat that says the record should be played at 33/45 rpm's. I prefer 45. -mc
1997-12-25 17:07lwtcdiMatt Cuttler wrote: > > written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk> > > >Yeah, but let
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Matt Cuttler wrote:
quoted 1 line written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk>> > written by lwtcdi <graham@lwtcdi.prestel.co.uk>
quoted 4 lines Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct'> > >Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct' > > >speed is obviously 45rpm, so I wish the artist/label would cut the > > >bullshit and stop pretending that Tom J knew what it was going to sound > > >like at 33rpm when he made it 45rpm.
quoted 2 lines Well, I have a David Kristian record on dropbeat that says the record> Well, I have a David Kristian record on dropbeat that says the record > should be played at 33/45 rpm's. I prefer 45.
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1997-12-25 19:38Matt Cuttlerlwtcdi wrote: > > > >Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'corre
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lwtcdi wrote:
quoted 10 lines Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct'> > > >Yeah, but let's face it, it sounds like pure pap at 33rpm! The 'correct' > > > >speed is obviously 45rpm, so I wish the artist/label would cut the > > > >bullshit and stop pretending that Tom J knew what it was going to sound > > > >like at 33rpm when he made it 45rpm. > > > Well, I have a David Kristian record on dropbeat that says the record > > should be played at 33/45 rpm's. I prefer 45. > > So what exactly are you trying to say? >
What I'm trying to say is that the people at dropbeat, or maybe even Kristian himself, realized the music sounded intriguing enough at both speeds to not confine the listening to thinking one speed is RIGHT or WRONG. It gives you the freedom the pick which one you prefer. Comprende? -mc