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To all, What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him called "Let's get killed". I only listened to it briefly in the CD store last night but was very intrigued by it so needless to say I bought it. Ross ;-)

1997-12-02 15:41Greg Clow> What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him called > "Let's get kille

From:: Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com>
To:: Ross Vitale <rvitale@phoenix.marymount.edu>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:41:37 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes
Reply to:: (idm) David Holmes

quoted 3 lines What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him called

> What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him called > "Let's get killed". I only listened to it briefly in the CD store last > night but was very intrigued by it so needless to say I bought it.

UK based DJ/artist who does what I would pretentiously describe as "cinematic techno", i.e. there are a lot of soundtrack-ish and filmic elements in his work. First caught my attention due to the title of his first album: "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" (there's that movie connection again). Dunno if he's done any work under other names or not. Greg

1997-12-02 22:02Irene McCOn 2 Dec 97, Ross Vitale wrote: (idm) David Holmes: > What's the scoop on this artist? I j

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <rvitale@phoenix.marymount.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 00:02:08 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes
Reply to:: (idm) David Holmes

On 2 Dec 97, Ross Vitale wrote: (idm) David Holmes:

quoted 2 lines What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him

> What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him > called "Let's get killed".

This baby comes highly acclaimed : "From the Winner of Best essential Mix at Muzik's SAS awards 1997" Voted album of the month by: MixMag, Muzik, Jockey Slut, Big Issue, Wax & Select. "Let's Get Killed is every music fan's dream come true in glorious living stereo" (MixMag) WELL!!! It doesn't get much better than that, surely :-) I am yet to hear this - apparently it came and went and sold out pronto and new stocks are not yet in... so please spill the beans: What's it like? I * "Incomplete without surface noise" - Autechre

1997-12-02 22:27robert feugateOn Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Irene McC wrote: :"Let's Get Killed is every music fan's dream come tr

From:: robert feugate <rfeugate@hawaii.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:27:29 -1000
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Irene McC wrote: :"Let's Get Killed is every music fan's dream come true in glorious :living stereo" (MixMag) lo and behold, I went to see the crap movie "The Jackal" and prior to the screening, an advert for 'Lets Ge Killed' flashed before my very eyes! interesting. also heard that Holmer was shopping at Rough Trade London and within an hour after his departure, LGK was fronting the stacks. taterz bob

1997-12-02 15:46Bart De Maertelaere<html> Hmmm, David Holmes...a.k.a. Scubadevils,... David hails f

From:: Bart De Maertelaere <bdemaert@unicall.be>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 16:46:45 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

1997-12-02 16:38jeffGreg Clow wrote: > > What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him > call

From:: jeff <jpklein@flash.net>
To:: Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com>
Cc:: Ross Vitale <rvitale@phoenix.marymount.edu>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:38:56 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

Greg Clow wrote:

quoted 16 lines What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him

> > What's the scoop on this artist? I just picked an album by him > called > > "Let's get killed". I only listened to it briefly in the CD store > last > > night but was very intrigued by it so needless to say I bought it. > > UK based DJ/artist who does what I would pretentiously describe as > "cinematic techno", i.e. there are a lot of soundtrack-ish and filmic > elements in his work. First caught my attention due to the title of > his > first album: "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" (there's that > movie > connection again). Dunno if he's done any work under other names or > not. > > Greg

Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres? jeff

1997-12-02 17:00Ross VitaleOn Tue, 2 Dec 1997, jeff wrote: > Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the S

From:: Ross Vitale <rvitale@phoenix.marymount.edu>
To:: jeff <jpklein@flash.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:00:32 -0500 (EST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, jeff wrote:

quoted 4 lines Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres?

> Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres? > > > jeff

Actually I noticed that a couple of the songs were recorded at "Sabresonic Studios" on the new album. Ross

1997-12-03 07:12Bart De Maertelaere<html> >Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres?

From:: Bart De Maertelaere <bdemaert@unicall.be>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 08:12:03 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

1997-12-03 16:03Irene McCHey Bart You're using enriched text mode or *something* that only others using the same ma

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <bdemaert@unicall.be>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:03:58 +0200
Subject:: (idm) hyper text markups
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

Hey Bart You're using enriched text mode or *something* that only others using the same mail programme canbenefit from (ie. print or view the way you write it, with bold, underlinings and italics etc.) This is what you seem to be using: X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Release Candidate 3 <><><><><> For the rest of the list members, this poses an irritating problem, because my programme wants to open the web browser in order to read your messages - which rather disturbs the flow of plodding through heaps of posts. Can you please do us all the favour of switching to a 'normal' text mode and ticking the appropriate options box off? Thanks very much. I *

1997-12-02 18:25jeffreyrobert.merlak@ri.tel.hr wrote: > jeff wrote : > >> Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of co

From:: jeffrey <jeffrey@formstudio.com>
To:: <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>, idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:25:30 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr wrote:

quoted 5 lines jeff wrote :

> jeff wrote : > >> Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres? > > He also did one remix for SOP, on their > legendary Smokebelch EP.

Smokebelch II. this is a great remix. i think this EP was recorded at Sabresonic too. while were at it dont forget the David Holmes mix on St. Etienne - Like a Motorway. fyi, this CD also contains the Autechre mix titled Skin up, Youre Already Dead.

quoted 3 lines ross wrote :

> ross wrote : > >Actually I noticed that a couple of the songs were recorded at "Sabresonic > >Studios" on the new album.

jeffrey

1997-12-02 18:59robert.merlak@ri.tel.hrjeff wrote : >> Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres? >> Yes he h

From:: <robert.merlak@ri.tel.hr>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:59:30 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

jeff wrote :

quoted 2 lines Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres?

>> Doesn't Mr. Holmes have some kind of connection to the Sabres? >>

Yes he has. He recorded his first album (This Films crap Let's Slash the Seets) in Sabresonic studios, and many of his tracks were produced by Jagz Kooner & Gary Burns and even one track is produced by his highness Lord Sabre Andrew Weatherall himself. On his debut EP on Warp called "JOHNNY FAVOURITE", wap42cd Holmes did this single together with Kooner and Burns. He also did one remix for SOP, on their legendary Smokebelch EP. ross wrote :

quoted 2 lines Actually I noticed that a couple of the songs were recorded at "Sabresonic

>Actually I noticed that a couple of the songs were recorded at "Sabresonic >Studios" on the new album.

I didn't hear new album. What's it like ? Is it similar to first one ? bye rob

1997-12-03 02:02Franz EnmarkDear IDM, "This film's crap..." sucked bigtime. The "Let's get killed" album is fucking ma

From:: Franz Enmark <frankie@gargamel.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 03:02:49 +0100
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

Dear IDM, "This film's crap..." sucked bigtime. The "Let's get killed" album is fucking marbellous. It's a compact plastic plate filled with vanillacram toasted with the big easy and some jazzological wackyness. Go get it! Plods kukar är nu tuisen gånger större.- Fe. - sale/wants: http://gargamel.com/frankie ''' = ) - =-= = '''''''''' - - plodulism!: http://gargamel.com/plod -->--> -/ - - - ] '''''''' - - dot records: http://gargamel.com/dot '''''' = -.. =-= = '''908285' -

1997-12-03 16:01Martin_Burbridge@3com.comdavid holmes has had a long association w/ the sabres crew. i 1st came heard him on their

From:: <Martin_Burbridge@3com.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:01:21 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

david holmes has had a long association w/ the sabres crew. i 1st came heard him on their "smokebelch II" single, and his remix of that track was widescreen acid strafed tribal pounding of the highest order. pretty amazing as it begins sounding like a fairly inoccuous piano based house shuffler. this version is pretty easily available on the "sabresonic II" compilation on warp. his best stuff imo is in a similar vein in that the tracks are basically one long crescendo, and if yer lucky end in a torrent of drums and acid squelch. the "johnny favourite" single on warp is a more subdued and sinister take on this approach but is also worth having. the saint etienne single "like a motorway" is a definate must, a blinding mix from holmes, plus an autechre mix, and anyone who is a sucker for shangri la's style pop death story songs (like me, unfortunately) will also enjoy the original. did this have a chemical bros mix when they were still the dust bros? don't have it w/ me so i can't check, but they did a lot of similar forgettable thumpers around this time. actually they still do. -btw- a. weatherall also weighed in w/ a great dubby hip hop mix of saint etienne's "only love can break your heart" some time earlier. around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding plastic (...?) imprint , with at least kooner + burns of the sabres, who i think released 2 singles. unfortunately i only have 1 track, "hawaiian death stomp", on a cd comp "euphoria" (which is also reccommended). starts off w/ a patti smith sample (?) "i haven't fucked much w/ the past, but i've fucked plenty w/ the future.." and blasts off into a raging percussion meltdown. anyone know if any of this stuff is still available? and then the cinematic techno "this films crap..." phase, which left me cold. i traded the cd. "let's get killed" is better, funky grooves, jazzy touches, short tracks. tho' i'd swap it anyday for the two 4 boy 1 girl action singles. -martin

1997-12-03 21:52Greg Earle> around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding > plastic (.

From:: Greg Earle <earle@isolar.Tujunga.CA.US>
To:: <Martin_Burbridge@3com.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 13:52:06 -0800
Subject:: (idm) Re: David Holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) David Holmes

quoted 2 lines around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding

> around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding > plastic (...?) imprint

I remember a label called - I think - Exploding Plastic Inevitable, is this it? I had a radio show tape with some track that was from that label (not 4 Boy 1 Girl Action tho) which was awesome ... can't remember who now, though.

quoted 2 lines starts off w/ a patti smith sample (?) "i haven't fucked much w/ the past,

> starts off w/ a patti smith sample (?) "i haven't fucked much w/ the past, > but i've fucked plenty w/ the future.."

Yep, Patti Smith all right ... from the start of "Rock n' Roll Nigger", if my now-aging braincells recall correctly ... OnNow: The thermal recalibration clicking of the 4 Gb Seagate Barracuda I picked up for $100 at auction - Greg

1997-12-03 22:00Ryan Richard Whitehead> > around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding > > plasti

From:: Ryan Richard Whitehead <lhopital@voyager0.Stanford.EDU>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: <Martin_Burbridge@3com.com>
Date:: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:00:15 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Re: David Holmes
Reply to:: (idm) Re: David Holmes

quoted 4 lines around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding

> > around '94 holmes was also part of 4 boy 1 girl action on his own exploding > > plastic (...?) imprint > > I remember a label called - I think - Exploding Plastic Inevitable, is this it?

trivia: The Exploding Plastic Inevitable was a traveling side show organized by Andy Warhol at which the Velvet Underground would play. rw

1998-05-22 17:53David J. Gebhartperhaps not quite idm, but wanted to respond to a posting citing "let's get killed" as an

From:: David J. Gebhart <dgeb@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 22 May 1998 10:53:00 PDT
Subject:: (idm) David Holmes

perhaps not quite idm, but wanted to respond to a posting citing "let's get killed" as an ace album from last year (which it most certainly is) and wondering how they missed (I dunno - never read mixmag or muzik?). specifically cited was "don't die just yet" (last full track on the lp) as the standout(and it is), but did ya notice it was a cover of a Serge Gainsbourg track? if you don't know who Serge is, then you're a) not French, b) didn't come of age in the sixties (not that I did, but close), and c) need to do some homework (as I did). my question: anyone hear/know of the original, and if so what's the story? DGeb ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

1998-10-13 22:52sfwd productionsI'm usually far too lazy and too much a git to thank people for the help they provide link

From:: sfwd productions <brap@sonic.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:52:11 -0700
Subject:: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai & more

I'm usually far too lazy and too much a git to thank people for the help they provide link wise and such, but I received *so* many responses to this wanted to that everyone... david toop... just received pink noir. love it, same being said for spirit world and screen ceremonies... know that there are a few odd tracks here and there on em:t comps, but is there any other material available beyond this? mogwai - my roommates kid (6 when she said i should buy the release in question) is cool as hell and when mogwai remixes 2xcd was first released and she heard it at the listening station at Reckless Records in San Fran she told me to either buy it myself or buy it for her. acted on her tortoise recommendation (think she heard that at reckless also) but only just picked up kicking a dead pig + fear satan remixes... anyone tell me how the originals of this are_? the my bloody valentine remix that had the distorted noisey loop going for something like 5+ minutes that has the nice bits slowly emerging is amazing... david holmes... picked up lets get killed a while back... dying to hear more, just looking for direction.. any help appreciated... spybey/plotkin - anyone heard the collab on kranky? tried to fit as many in here as i could to cut down my personal list traffic :) brap@sonic.net icq_12645306 http://www.sonic.net/~brap/ coming sooner than later: sfwd0004 - pre-mil·len·ni·um soundscapes 12" our future has never been so frightening: http://williamshatner.com/

1998-10-14 17:03Irene McCOn 13 Oct 98, sfwd productions wrote re: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai: > david holm

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <brap@sonic.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:03:28 +0200
Subject:: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai & more

On 13 Oct 98, sfwd productions wrote re: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai:

quoted 2 lines david holmes... picked up lets get killed a while back... dying to

> david holmes... picked up lets get killed a while back... dying to > hear more, just looking for direction.. any help appreciated...

This Movie is Crap Let's Slash the Seats. How can you go wrong with a title like THAT?! Although - truth be told - I've never heard it! I keep finding remixes of his here and there - like the This is Facism (Consolidated 2x CD remix project from 96) the final track is by David Holmes and what a killer it is. I *

1998-10-14 18:27bill wrightAnyone know where I can get this: Don't Die Just Yet Remix of the David Holmes version of

From:: bill wright <wwright@clemson.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 14:27:15 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes

Anyone know where I can get this: Don't Die Just Yet Remix of the David Holmes version of the Serge Gainsbourg song. Apparently there is a remix by Mogwai (I belive the other side is by Arab Strap), which has a sample from one of my favorite bands (Slint) and I would like to hear it. Can anyone offer help? At 07:03 PM 10/14/98 +0200, Irene McC wrote:

quoted 21 lines On 13 Oct 98, sfwd productions wrote re: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai:

>On 13 Oct 98, sfwd productions wrote re: (idm) thanks & help on toop, mogwai: > >> david holmes... picked up lets get killed a while back... dying to >> hear more, just looking for direction.. any help appreciated... > >This Movie is Crap Let's Slash the Seats. > >How can you go wrong with a title like THAT?! >Although - truth be told - I've never heard it! > >I keep finding remixes of his here and there - like the This is >Facism (Consolidated 2x CD remix project from 96) the final track >is by David Holmes and what a killer it is. > >I >* > > > > >

bill wright wwright@clemson.edu <http://hubcap.clemson.edu/~wwright>

1998-10-15 02:55David J. Gebhartbill, those who care - what yer after here is the two disc/12" release of "Don't Die Just

From:: David J. Gebhart <dgeb@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>, <wwright@clemson.edu>
Date:: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:55:30 PDT
Subject:: re: (idm) david holmes

bill, those who care - what yer after here is the two disc/12" release of "Don't Die Just Yet," the last track on Let's Go Get Killed, attributed in the liner notes to Serge Gainsbourg, the famed French... umm... musician from the 60's. Go Beat! GOBCD6 (569 289-2) has your Magwai mix, among others, which I recall as pretty decent. also an alternate mix from Holmes called "Don't Chant Just Yet" (has a little rougher edge to it), and also the Arab Strap and Dakota mixes. Go Beat! GOBCD6 (569 291-2) has the La Funk Mob mix (nothing overwhelming, but nice a laid back) and the Max404 mix, which is da f*ckin' bomb, if lushy jazzy horn and guitar sounds over a warm house beat is your thing (akin to Ibbotson, but maybe with a fuller sound). and it's nice and long, too. these were pressed in the UK only, so to get them...? try www.juno.co.uk. mail 'em if they don't list it in their inventory 'cos they should still be able to get them. or maybe www.action-records.co.uk? or, hell, just start at www.gemm.com and go from there. ok, done playing "Lance" for now. cheers all. daevid j btw, for those who don't have it and are tempted, _don't_ rush out to get This Film's Crap. it's all right, but certainly not great and not on par with Get Killed. if anything, get the ep for "Gone," probably the best track on the record, and that way at least you'll get the Kruder + Dorfmeister rmx.

quoted 7 lines From: bill wright <wwright@clemson.edu>

>From: bill wright <wwright@clemson.edu> >Subject: Re: (idm) david holmes > >Anyone know where I can get this: > > Don't Die Just Yet > Remix of the David Holmes version of the Serge Gainsbourg

song.

quoted 2 lines Apparently there is a remix by Mogwai (I belive the other side is by

> >Apparently there is a remix by Mogwai (I belive the other side is by

Arab

quoted 2 lines Strap), which has a sample from one of my favorite bands (Slint) and I

>Strap), which has a sample from one of my favorite bands (Slint) and I >would like to hear it. Can anyone offer help?

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1998-10-15 03:05erici haven't seen anything about the "stop arresting artists" box...anybody have the scoop? e

From:: eric <ehill@best.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 20:05:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: re: (idm) david holmes

i haven't seen anything about the "stop arresting artists" box...anybody have the scoop? eric

1998-10-15 13:49martin burbridgeeric wrote: > > i haven't seen anything about the "stop arresting artists" > box...anybody

From:: martin burbridge <mbridge@imagicians.com>
To:: eric <ehill@best.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 09:49:16 -0400
Subject:: RE: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

eric wrote:

quoted 4 lines i haven't seen anything about the "stop arresting artists"

> > i haven't seen anything about the "stop arresting artists" > box...anybody have the scoop? >

don't have full details but this was 4or5 12" w/ rmxs from "let's get killed" singles. it cost about $40 in the u.s. my recommendation would be to grab the u.s. 12"s of "gritty shaker" and "my mate paul" - that w/ the cd or 12" of "dont die just yet" (mogwai/arab strap... mixes) at import price will get you all the best stuff for about $20.i think there was just one unreleased mix on "stop arresting artists" by two lone swordsmen, and much as i love 'em i think i'll do w/out. particularly if its one of their light up and let the loop run workouts. -martin note one is rotted music

1998-10-15 03:13Peter HolloJust to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" is 1000% better th

From:: Peter Hollo <raven@fourplay.com.au>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 13:13:06 +1000
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes

Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" is 1000% better than "Let's Get Killed". I bought the latter album and sold it after about a week - those vocal interludes recorded on the street in between the tracks really annoy the hell out of me (I mean, after hearing them once, or perhaps twice, would you REALLY like to hear them again and again?) and many of them are part of the next track so you can't damn well program them out. And the music is just a bit big-beaty for me... pretty good in a lot of parts, but not enough to outweigh the drawbacks to me. On the other hand "This Films Crap" (yeah, the actual album title has no apostrophes, naughty!) is just a totally legendary album. The first track, "No Mans Land", and the last, "Coming Home To The Sun", share musical material, and the album's worth it for these tracks alone - epic sountrack-like stuff. Much of the album is co-produced by Kooner/Burns of Sabres of Paradise; there are cameos from Jah Wobble on bass and Sarah Cracknell of Saint Etienne, and indeed Keith Tenniswood (the "other" Lone Swordsman) plays on one track too. Don't believe the nay-sayers, this is an excellent album and deserves at least a good listen in a shop somewhere. I'm sure you can find it second-hand somewhere too. Peter. -- Peter Hollo raven@fourplay.com.au http://www.fourplay.com.au/me.html FourPlay - Eclectic Electric String Quartet http://www.fourplay.com.au "Of course, dance music can be a music where you lie on your back and your brain cells dance" -Michael Karoli of Can, quoted in Wire mag.

1998-10-15 05:53Greg ClowOn Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Peter Hollo wrote: > Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap,

From:: Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 01:53:29 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Peter Hollo wrote:

quoted 4 lines Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats"

> Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats" > is 1000% better than "Let's Get Killed". I bought the latter album and > sold it after about a week - those vocal interludes recorded on the > street in between the tracks really annoy the hell out of me

Actually, they WEREN'T recorded by Holmes on the street as he claims. Or at least not all of them were. Not long after I got the album, I was watching an episode of Taxicab Confessions, this great documentary series where people are filmed in taxis with a hidden camera. One segment features this scary dude with a stars 'n' stripes bandana ranting about beating the shit out of someone in a bar brawl, or something to that effect. And wouldn't you know it, but excerpts of this guy's rant appear on "Let's Get Killed" as one of Holmes' supposed "field recordings" from the streets of NYC. Don't get me wrong, I still like the music on the disc fine. But this sort of made me wonder how many of the interludes Holmes actually got from "real life", and how many he scooped from other sources. Greg

1998-10-15 08:03Irene McCOn 15 Oct 98, Greg Clow wrote re: Re: (idm) david holmes: > ranting about beating the shit

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <stained@interlog.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 10:03:41 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

On 15 Oct 98, Greg Clow wrote re: Re: (idm) david holmes:

quoted 4 lines ranting about beating the shit out of someone in a bar brawl, or

> ranting about beating the shit out of someone in a bar brawl, or > something to that effect. And wouldn't you know it, but excerpts of > this guy's rant appear on "Let's Get Killed" as one of Holmes' > supposed "field recordings" from the streets of NYC.

Oh - - - very very INTERESTING. Story goes he dropped sh!tloads of acid and wandered around with a microphone ... hence the title, coz he had some narrow escapes. Hmmmmm... makes you fink. I *

1998-10-15 09:53Tom TongerAt 10:03 15.10.98 +0200, Irene McC wrote: >On 15 Oct 98, Greg Clow wrote re: Re: (idm) dav

From:: Tom Tonger <tom.tonger@uni-koeln.de>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 11:53:21 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

At 10:03 15.10.98 +0200, Irene McC wrote:

quoted 10 lines On 15 Oct 98, Greg Clow wrote re: Re: (idm) david holmes:

>On 15 Oct 98, Greg Clow wrote re: Re: (idm) david holmes: > >> ranting about beating the shit out of someone in a bar brawl, or >> something to that effect. And wouldn't you know it, but excerpts of >> this guy's rant appear on "Let's Get Killed" as one of Holmes' >> supposed "field recordings" from the streets of NYC. > >Oh - - - very very INTERESTING. Story goes he dropped sh!tloads >of acid and wandered around with a microphone ... hence the title, >coz he had some narrow escapes. Hmmmmm... makes you fink.

very interesting indeed. exactly that is also what i read in an interview with him in the german magazine debug. cheers, tom

1998-10-15 16:48laerm> Actually, they WEREN'T recorded by Holmes on the street as he claims. Or > at least not

From:: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
To:: Greg Clow <stained@interlog.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:48:20 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

quoted 14 lines Actually, they WEREN'T recorded by Holmes on the street as he claims. Or

> Actually, they WEREN'T recorded by Holmes on the street as he claims. Or > at least not all of them were. > > Not long after I got the album, I was watching an episode of Taxicab > Confessions, this great documentary series where people are filmed in > taxis with a hidden camera. One segment features this scary dude with a > stars 'n' stripes bandana ranting about beating the shit out of someone in > a bar brawl, or something to that effect. And wouldn't you know it, but > excerpts of this guy's rant appear on "Let's Get Killed" as one of Holmes' > supposed "field recordings" from the streets of NYC. > > Don't get me wrong, I still like the music on the disc fine. But this sort > of made me wonder how many of the interludes Holmes actually got from > "real life", and how many he scooped from other sources.

hah! why doesn't this surprise me? ps - thanks. now i don't feel stupid, thinking that i was the only who watched that show. :) * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# i nostri sogni sono sempre presenti

1998-10-15 16:45laermOn Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Peter Hollo wrote: > Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap,

From:: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:45:59 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Re: (idm) david holmes

On Thu, 15 Oct 1998, Peter Hollo wrote:

quoted 6 lines Just to dissent, I think that "This Film's Crap, Let's Slash The Seats"

on one hand, i liked the "street samples" bit. the only part of the entire album i thought was original.

quoted 8 lines On the other hand "This Films Crap" (yeah, the actual album title has no

> On the other hand "This Films Crap" (yeah, the actual album title has no > apostrophes, naughty!) is just a totally legendary album. The first > track, "No Mans Land", and the last, "Coming Home To The Sun", share > musical material, and the album's worth it for these tracks alone - epic > sountrack-like stuff. Much of the album is co-produced by Kooner/Burns > of Sabres of Paradise; there are cameos from Jah Wobble on bass and > Sarah Cracknell of Saint Etienne, and indeed Keith Tenniswood (the > "other" Lone Swordsman) plays on one track too.

however, this sounds more like my speed. and jah wobble is the shit as far as i'm concerned. * #### a disturbance in a system. #### laerm. @voicenet.com ##:# i nostri sogni sono sempre presenti

1998-10-15 16:50Bill VanLoo> on one hand, i liked the "street samples" bit. the only part of the entire > album i tho

From:: Bill VanLoo <wdvanloo@sigma6.com>
To:: laerm <laerm@voicenet.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 12:50:35 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes

quoted 2 lines on one hand, i liked the "street samples" bit. the only part of the entire

> on one hand, i liked the "street samples" bit. the only part of the entire > album i thought was original.

I dunno about the street samples being "the only part of the entire album that's original", but one of the interludes _is_ a favorite part of the album for me. It's a guy rapping over a beat that sounds like it was constructed from street musicians playing on overturned barrels & buckets & things. Too bad it's so short (around a minute)... Alright, enough about David Holmes ;) Bill -- Sigma6 Interactive Media / http://www.sigma6.com dj marathon: "fibre" up now @ http://www.flatplastic.com/

1998-10-15 20:38David Hampson>>I dunno about the street samples being "the only part of the entire album that's origina

From:: David Hampson <david.hampson@virgin.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 15 Oct 1998 21:38:45 +0100
Subject:: Subject: Re: (idm) david holmes

quoted 1 line I dunno about the street samples being "the only part of the entire album

>>I dunno about the street samples being "the only part of the entire album

that's original", but one of the interludes _is_ a favorite part of the album for me. It's a guy rapping over a beat that sounds like it was constructed from street musicians playing on overturned barrels & buckets & things. Too bad it's so short (around a minute)...<< "Head Rush on Lafayette" - that was my favourite too! And the guy drops his phone number at the end too - we'll all have to call him up (212-2404-9530840) and tell him he's uncredited on the album. The other interlude that cracked me up was the gay sounding kid who wasn't allowed to dance at the punk club cos they thought he was moshing... and the girl going on about James Bond and then she argues with the guy who thinks Shaft would kick his ass! The first album was cool but in a different way - it was more like a film soundtrack with a dance music undercurrent while "Let's Get Killed" reverses this. On a more stupid note, I always though the outline on the cover was a fierce dog rushing headlong out of the CD - the two arms dangling down are like paws. Guess I'm on the wrong list. BABY DIDDY

1998-10-16 17:04Irene McCOn 15 Oct 98, David Hampson wrote re: Subject: Re: (idm) david holmes: > and the girl goin

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 19:04:35 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) david holmes
Reply to:: Subject: Re: (idm) david holmes

On 15 Oct 98, David Hampson wrote re: Subject: Re: (idm) david holmes:

quoted 2 lines and the girl going on about James Bond and then she argues with the

> and the girl going on about James Bond and then she argues with the > guy who thinks Shaft would kick his ass!

Yeh !! That's the ONE. Superman's the shit :-) Sorry to drag out this thread - but summer weather's here and I've got a neon smile on my face. I *

1998-10-16 11:23Iain Forfar>Not long after I got the album, I was watching an episode of Taxicab >Confessions, this g

From:: Iain Forfar <iforfar@my-dejanews.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:23:53 -0700
Subject:: (idm) david holmes

quoted 7 lines Not long after I got the album, I was watching an episode of Taxicab

>Not long after I got the album, I was watching an episode of Taxicab >Confessions, this great documentary series where people are filmed in >taxis with a hidden camera. One segment features this scary dude with a >stars 'n' stripes bandana ranting about beating the shit out of someone in >a bar brawl, or something to that effect. And wouldn't you know it, but >excerpts of this guy's rant appear on "Let's Get Killed" as one of Holmes' >supposed "field recordings" from the streets of NYC.

Ahhh - I checked up on this after Greg's last posting. If you read the liner notes, Mr. Holmes doesn't credit the above rant to anyone or any section of New York. Yet, with all the other stuff he tells ya where he recorded it. So he probably didn't cheat :) -i. -----== Sent via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Easy access to 50,000+ discussion forums