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On 22 Feb 1997 10:57 UT (-0500), CHUD wrote to me:

quoted 7 lines I've only heard a few RA preview clips, but I'm terribly excited

> I've only heard a few RA preview clips, but I'm terribly excited > about the release. I was wondering if anyone knew if WaxTrax still > released Warp/Ae material domestically for the US? I have yet to see > 'Envane' surface and mailordered it... I had planned on advance > ordering this (but had to order blech) so was wondering if theres any > chance of it being released on Monday via WaxTrax? Otherwise, its > mailorder or long trip to the city...

Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing Chiastic Slide domestically. onnow: futique "luvluv" (instinct) Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong" For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.on-it.net/~aaron/ aaron@defiant.on-it.net

On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

quoted 2 lines Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing

>Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing >Chiastic Slide domestically.

Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

quoted 5 lines On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

> On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre: > >Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing > >Chiastic Slide domestically. > > Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P

Well, if released domestically, it would mean the difference of getting it for 12.99 on Monday and getting it for much more a few weeks from now... I have to admit though, theres just something different about a release when you know you actually had to go to some effort to get it... __________________________________________ sfwd@sonic.net *sfwd* industrial.techno.gothic music resources page http://www.sonic.net/~brap/

quoted 9 lines On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: Real Autechre:

>> On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: Real Autechre: >>> Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing >>> Chiastic Slide domestically. >> >> Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P > > Well, if released domestically, it would mean the difference of > getting it for 12.99 on Monday and getting it for much more a few > weeks from now...

Not to mention the fact that it might be *better*; let's not forget that the U.S. domestic issues of "Tri Repetae" and "Richard D. James" are superior (and better value for money) than the UK Warp issues ...

quoted 2 lines I have to admit though, there's just something different about a

> I have to admit though, there's just something different about a > release when you know you actually had to go to some effort to get it ...

Yeah ... it's called "the pain in your arse". (Tell that to the people on this list who live in East Armpit, Kansas ... for whom *everything* comes under the category of "actually had to go to some effort to get it" ... ) - Greg (Who is very glad he's no longer a trainspotter and who is very happy to wait extra time to get 6 extra tracks or an extra CD. And who laughs at the pathetically sad gits who wait for dub plates to be auctioned off, since they're gonna be considered "outdated" by the time of the next week's auction ... )

On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, Hillie wrote:

quoted 5 lines On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

> On 22-Feb-97, Aaron Michelson scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre: > >Go for the import. Wax Trax!/TVT currently has NO plans of releasing > >Chiastic Slide domestically. > > Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P

But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps myself* Damn, I forgot which list I was on for a sec there.... *<;-P cya brian

quoted 4 lines Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P

>> Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P > >But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps >myself* Damn, I forgot which list I was on for a sec there.... *<;-P

My AFX pals think I'm insanse because I own: Warp Girl/Boy on vinyl Warp Girl/Boy on CD Warp RDJ on vinyl Sire RDJ on CD THERE IS LOGIC TO THIS. grant.h.horne http://delta.is.tcu.edu/~ghhorne/

On Sat, 22 Feb 1997, tickle me wrote:

quoted 8 lines My AFX pals think I'm insanse because I own:

> My AFX pals think I'm insanse because I own: > > Warp Girl/Boy on vinyl > Warp Girl/Boy on CD > Warp RDJ on vinyl > Sire RDJ on CD > > THERE IS LOGIC TO THIS.

Sure there is! You have two copies too many of Girl/Boy, and if you want to listen to RDJ you either have to get up and flip it or get up and shut it off. Anyone want to trade a Sire for a Warp? No? I didn't think so... e

On 23-Feb-97, tickle me scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

quoted 4 lines Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P

>>> Who would rather have a domestic anyway? :P >> >>But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps >>myself* Damn, I forgot which list I was on for a sec there.... *<;-P

quoted 1 line My AFX pals think I'm insanse because I own:

>My AFX pals think I'm insanse because I own:

quoted 4 lines Warp Girl/Boy on vinyl

>Warp Girl/Boy on vinyl >Warp Girl/Boy on CD >Warp RDJ on vinyl >Sire RDJ on CD

quoted 1 line THERE IS LOGIC TO THIS.

>THERE IS LOGIC TO THIS.

let me see.. bought warp g/b on vinyl and cd to own both.. (?) bought RDJ on vinyl, then bought Sire RDJ becoz they sold out of Warp RDJ on CD. ? :-) I bought mine the same exact way, except it was liek this: bought warp girl/boy on cd and vinyl (coz I still bought cd's but wanted vinyls for when I got 2 sl1200's, and later I decided to stop buying cd's.) warp RDJ on vinyl coz it was only 15$, on CD it was $21, didn't have enough money to get it on CD, and later I never got it on CD coz I decided to stop buying CD's. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

On 23-Feb-97, Brian & Sharon Beuchaw scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

quoted 2 lines But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps

>But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps >myself* Damn, I forgot which list I was on for a sec there.... *<;-P

yep. Coz if it's a re-release (domestic) that means it's a copy and not the original, like someone else said it before, I don't remember who, even though it was 2 msgs or so before this one :D anyhow, since it's a copy really, you don't have that feeling of owning an original. -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

On 23-Feb-97, ryan|b|shaw scribbled something about Re: (idm) Real Autechre:

quoted 2 lines Well...unless you have stolen the masters, you *still* have a

>Well...unless you have stolen the masters, you *still* have a >"copy." Uh-oh!

heh that's cute.. :) -- __ __\ \ Aurafix aka Hillie / PHD ^ DAMONES / /_\ \ http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html \_____/ >> buh@clark.net >> < > .. >> .<>> >> > , m7= Do re mi fa so la ti .. Oh let's see if we can make it easier..

On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Hillie wrote:

quoted 6 lines yep. Coz if it's a re-release (domestic) that means it's a copy and not the

> yep. Coz if it's a re-release (domestic) that means it's a copy and not the > original, like someone else said it before, I don't remember who, even though > it was 2 msgs or so before this one :D > > anyhow, since it's a copy really, you don't have that feeling of owning an > original.

I think you've lost me, aren't they all copies, that is they were copied from the original master recording. The only true original is the one they recorded to the DAT/ADAT or whatever medium when the artist was in their respective studio. Just a thought or two.... ;-)

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In message <Pine.LNX.3.94.970224103002.29116A- 100000@phoenix.marymount.edu>, Ross Vitale <rvitale@phoenix.marymount.ed u> writes

quoted 14 lines On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Hillie wrote:

>On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Hillie wrote: > >> yep. Coz if it's a re-release (domestic) that means it's a copy and not the >> original, like someone else said it before, I don't remember who, even though >> it was 2 msgs or so before this one :D >> >> anyhow, since it's a copy really, you don't have that feeling of owning an >> original. > >I think you've lost me, aren't they all copies, that is they were copied >from the original master recording. The only true original is the one they >recorded to the DAT/ADAT or whatever medium when the artist was in their >respective studio. >

Nope, the only originals are either the ones stored as .MIDI files on their harddisk, or, failing that, the ideas floating around in their minds......so try stealing that!! GO ON GO ON!!! TRY STEALING THEIR MINDS!! i dare you... -- Ben Coffer Hybrid Productions http://www.hybridgame.demon.co.uk/

With all this excitement about the broadcast yesterday, perhaps people have overlooked that Chiastic Slide is released on Monday. Good though it is, I don't regard the radio mix as serious Ae work. This cannot be said of CS - the most intense and fully-realised Booth/Brown release yet. Scary, beautiful, fractured, weird. It's top hole, what. adam --------------------------------------------------------- M.A.J. Huffman e-mail: pcp95mah@shef.ac.uk Human Communication Sciences phone: +44 114 222 2413 Univ. of Sheffield 18 Claremont Crescent Sheffield S10 2TA England www.shef.ac.uk/~spsu/stude/adam.html

quoted 3 lines With all this excitement about the broadcast yesterday, perhaps

> With all this excitement about the broadcast yesterday, perhaps > people have overlooked that Chiastic Slide is released on Monday. >

I've only heard a few RA preview clips, but I'm terribly excited about the release. I was wondering if anyone knew if WaxTrax still released Warp/Ae material domestically for the US? I have yet to see 'Envane' surface and mailordered it... I had planned on advance ordering this (but had to order blech) so was wondering if theres any chance of it being released on Monday via WaxTrax? Otherwise, its mailorder or long trip to the city... __________________________________________ sfwd@sonic.net *sfwd* industrial.techno.gothic music resources page http://www.sonic.net/~brap/

On Sat, 22 Feb 1997 10:57:21 +0000, "CHUD" <sfwd@sub.sonic.net> wrote:

quoted 11 lines With all this excitement about the broadcast yesterday, perhaps

>> With all this excitement about the broadcast yesterday, perhaps >> people have overlooked that Chiastic Slide is released on Monday. >> > >I've only heard a few RA preview clips, but I'm terribly excited >about the release. I was wondering if anyone knew if WaxTrax still >released Warp/Ae material domestically for the US? I have yet to see >'Envane' surface and mailordered it... I had planned on advance >ordering this (but had to order blech) so was wondering if theres any >chance of it being released on Monday via WaxTrax? Otherwise, its >mailorder or long trip to the city...

At the moment there are no realised plans to release Chiastic Slide in the USA. g.

On 22 Feb 1997 23:25 -0600 (-1100), Brian & Sharon Beuchaw wrote to me:

quoted 2 lines But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps

> But does it really matter anyway when the music's the same? *slaps > myself* Damn, I forgot which list I was on for a sec there.... *<;-P

Probably the same people who would drop $225 for a copy of 2350 Broadway on Fax Records.... when a reissue is available for $14.25. Wouldn't want your barcodes to be in disarray! onnow: v/a artificial intelligence 1 (wax trax!/tvt) gee, that speedy j track #9 sounds awfully like lx patterson! :) Lame Thread Prevention in Effect: Aaron Michelson --------------------------------------------------------------------- aw-teck'r (autechre) "Everything you Know is Wrong" For reviews, interviews, art & trash http://www.on-it.net/~aaron/ aaron@defiant.on-it.net

Author: buh@clark.net at NRG wrote anyhow, since it's a copy really, you don't have that feeling of owning an original. Alright, it is time for a history lesson. Unfortunately, I don't remember enough history to deliver the lesson. I do remember the original author, however. For next class you must all read E. Gombrich's seminal essay "Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction." For a simpler version of many of the same thoughts try Berger's teeny book of 5 essays "Ways of Seeing." The question is, when copies can accurately portray the original work, what is the role of the original? Discuss matt