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Hey all. Got two things up for grabs... BOYMERANG - latest 12" on Prototype (sorry, can't remember the title) Picked this up based on liking the Leaf single, but I just don't dig it. Only played once. I'd like to get $10 ppd for it, but might haggle a bit. Try me. UNIVERSAL INDICATOR GREEN on Rephlex Yeah, the 7"/10"/12" pack in a Rephlex shopping bag sleeve. Fairly standard Rephlexian U.I. mayhem. I dunno exactly who did what... I've heard that RDJ was involved somehow, but y'know how those rumours spread. Anyway, I think I'll do this one as an auction. Buyer pays shipping, blah blah blah. Send yer bids to stained@interlog.com - closes on Sunday, the 11th. Now, some assorted IDMish comments: Got a promo copy of the Bowie album last week, and y'know, it's not bad. Sure, if you're expecting something totally groundbreaking , etc., you ain't getting it here. But taken as a David Bowie album with d'n'b/techno elements added to the mix, it's quite listenable. Which is something I haven't been able to say about a David Bowie album in, oh, 15 years or so. :-) Gotta wonder, though, why the fuck they had the remixes for "Little Wonder" (prolly the most junglefied track on the disc) done by Junior Vasquez... like, hello? Why not Photek (they're on the same label!) or Sqpshr or even fucking Bukem? I don' unnerstan.

quoted 8 lines From: "Gonzi (Fresh)" <fresh@linkonline.net>

> From: "Gonzi (Fresh)" <fresh@linkonline.net> > > "'Refried Food' DJ Food (NinjaTune) > Amazing insturmental hip-hop. Trippy, with cool samples. No one's really > heard of it, and it's my favorite album of last year. I think DJ Food > and Coldcut work together." > > Ya think? Fucking idgit...

Ah, would ya give the "more IDM than thou" attitude a rest, Gonzi? Just cause some casual fan doesn't happen to know that DJ Food and Coldcut are almost one & the same, it doesn't mean that they're a fucking idiot. Yeah, we might be a bunch of sad spotters, but that doesn't mean that everyone listening to this music is. -----

quoted 3 lines I'm sure many people on this list are well-known, at their workplace or lab or

> I'm sure many people on this list are well-known, at their workplace or lab or > home or among friends, as the Person Who Listens To Weird Music. Or the Person > Who Blows All Her/His Earnings On $25 Import CDs. ;)

(raises hand) Over here! Yup, that's right on the money. Although in my case, people have a hard time figuring out why one minute, they might walk by and find me listening to some electro-phunk thing, and the next, listening to some lounge/EZ listening. Keep 'em on their toes, that what I always say... :-)

quoted 1 line On now:: erm, Lush

> On now:: erm, Lush

On now: "Ultra-Lounge: Organs In Orbit" -----

quoted 5 lines From: Jon Drukman <jsd@gamespot.com>

> From: Jon Drukman <jsd@gamespot.com> > > funny how just a year back people were falling over themselves saying how > wonderful the chems were. now they've got a bit of popularity and it's all > "they're so commercial, i always hated them."

Fuck that action, I still dig 'em. "Setting Sun" is a great pop record. -----

quoted 8 lines From: Peter Hagopian <hagopian@n2k.com>

> From: Peter Hagopian <hagopian@n2k.com> > > > OUR CHILDREN ARE "RAVING" - And What We Can Do About It > > ABC's 20/20 program did an "expose" on that very story two or three > weeks ago... It's amazing to hear parents blame "rave culture" for the > OD deaths of their kids. I'm sympathetic to their terrible loss, but > shutting down raves isn't going to help.

These are the same type of people who were blaming heavy metal bands for their kids drinking, smoking dope and committing suicide back in the 80's. The type of parents who need a scapegoat to cover up the fact that they didn't raise their kids properly themselves. These sort of people will *always* exoist in one form or another. Just have to deal. Greg

On 05-Feb-97, Greg Clow scribbled something about (idm) Stuff for sale and other comments:

quoted 1 line Hey all. Got two things up for grabs...

>Hey all. Got two things up for grabs...

quoted 7 lines UNIVERSAL INDICATOR GREEN on Rephlex

>UNIVERSAL INDICATOR GREEN on Rephlex > Yeah, the 7"/10"/12" pack in a Rephlex shopping bag sleeve. Fairly >standard Rephlexian U.I. mayhem. I dunno exactly who did what... I've >heard that RDJ was involved somehow, but y'know how those rumours spread. >Anyway, I think I'll do this one as an auction. Buyer pays shipping, blah >blah blah. Send yer bids to stained@interlog.com - closes on Sunday, the >11th.

I got this just a couple of weeks ago.. No one knows for sure if it's AFX, but I can tell you I'm 100% sure that the tracks on the 10" are definitely AFX, I am sure about my hearing, not that I know it from somewhere.. I am just 100% sure in my mind it's AFX because of hearing it and identifying his music. Tne 12" could be his, but the one track on the 7" isn't his I don't think, unless he did something weird, a bit of an "ambient vs. tb303 acid" type thing. then again, the entire album could have been done by him too, it's unfortunate no one knows.. Maybe we will know when/if the Universal Indicator compilation comes out? on the note of standard rephlexian U.I. mayhem (i'll give a more in-depth review), I've only heard red and green, but IMO red is not that much dance-floor oriented, where as green seems almost like if it was intended to be spun at a party. Totally awesome, aggressive beats. (NO, not jungle/breakbeat :P) anyhows excellent record, I regard it as one of the best records i've ever bought. -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...

On 05-Feb-97, cmac@txdirect.net scribbled something about Re: (idm) u.i.green:

quoted 5 lines Tan 109 did the rest of the U.I green. Tan 109 is Martin Tressider...

>Tan 109 did the rest of the U.I green. Tan 109 is Martin Tressider... >he did U.I Red. >Martin T. has released anything alse that I know of. I heard a ways >back that there were several mate that made music for Rephlex but never >wanted it to be released.

huh then how come u.i red is stamped Aphex Twin? One of the pressings is anyways, one not.. also, what is the "rest" of u.i. green? :) -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...

On Wed, 5 Feb 1997, Hillie asked:

quoted 2 lines huh then how come u.i red is stamped Aphex Twin? One of the pressings is

> huh then how come u.i red is stamped Aphex Twin? One of the pressings is > anyways, one not..

...here's an old post from about a year-and-a-half ago that might answer your above question: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- From: rephlex@dircon.co.uk (rephlex) Date: Tue, 12 Sep 1995 17:10:34 +0100 Subject: Re: idm V1 #234 TB303 (Blue) by KOSMIK KOMMANDO who also did the yellow one. TR606 (Red) by TAN 109 who also did 2/3 of the green one. You shouldn't have to pay $75 for these, ESPECIALLY as neither are by RDJ - the confusion comes courtesy of GREAT ASSET DISTRIBUTION, who stamped many of them for export with Aphex info, of course a low-down stinking lie (which is all you can expect from PAT and RAZ, two scum-sucking money- grabbing CUNTS who can't die soon enough as far as i'm concerned). Incidentally, they are two of our best selling records and ARE NOT RARE. Hope that's of some use. GCHQ. ---------- End ---------- stnuc. .`--). o o ._) christopher miller ==;' evil@digital.net ==' ' on: "Ciphers" by SETI

On 06-Feb-97, Maarten D. Schemer scribbled something about Re: (idm) u.i.green:

quoted 3 lines Wow. I think we can all agree that's quite a pair of ears you have there...

>Wow. I think we can all agree that's quite a pair of ears you have there... >I remember Grant telling us that 2/3 of the green UI was by someone called >TAN 109, also responsible for the red UI.

It sure is, well.. I meant that I would believe 100% in my mind it's Aphex Twin unless someone knows for sure. i would like to KNOW from the dude who said TAN 01 did 2/3 of it, wtf did the other 1/3 ;) Just meant, like if I didn't know Global Goon wasn't Aphex Twin I would know it wasn't anyhow, I'd never think that record had anything to do with AFX, besides of coz that he's RDJ's flatmate.

quoted 1 line Nah... something weird??? can't be him, just can't.

>Nah... something weird??? can't be him, just can't.

haha, I don't consider his stuff weird, but yeah.. if you consider it weird, it's weird even for him, doesn't sound like him at all.. just a bunch of tb-303 ambient-ish synths that don't even sound like it's on a steady rhythm.

quoted 3 lines Hey, I can get multiple copies of a new jungle 12" by someone calling

>Hey, I can get multiple copies of a new jungle 12" by someone calling >himself Universal Indicator. I can't check the name in the credits right >now, but whatever it is, it probably means James in Ukrainian anyway.

it's someone who ripped the name from rephlex. -- Hillie aka Aurafix / PHD ja DAMONES hillien kotisivu - http://www.clark.net/pub/buh/index.html phase distortion - http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~airou/phd/ easy internet services - http://huizen.dds.nl/~eis Do re mi fa so la ti.. Oh let's see if I can make it easier...

quoted 3 lines huh then how come u.i red is stamped Aphex Twin? One of the pressings is

> >huh then how come u.i red is stamped Aphex Twin? One of the pressings is >anyways, one not..

probably for the same reason the blue one is stamped Aphex Twin..... funny thing too, it is in the same rubber stamp type that rephlex used to use to label their records..... everyone SWEARS these arent aphex but EVERY copy I have ever seen in nyc (and that is only like 10) say this... did rephlex do this to drum up record sales? dollin the strange organization 445 e. 9th st ny.ny.10009 212.505.3025