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1997-02-05 20:01Matt Jarsky (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
└─ 1997-02-05 22:35Zenon M. Feszczak Re: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
1997-02-05 22:45James Re: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
1997-02-05 23:18afo Re: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
1997-02-06 03:51GD Re: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
1997-02-06 04:19Emanuel Borsboom Re: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
1997-02-07 17:22Matt Jarsky Re[2]: (idm) Envane & Fallingwater
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1997-02-05 20:01Matt JarskySince my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for Envane and Frank Lloyd Wri
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Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for Envane and Frank Lloyd Wright's masterpiece "Fallingwater" failed to generate even a hint of a thread, I have no reason to hope anyone's ineterested in my confirmation of the connection between the two. I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The photograph of Fallingwater on the dustcover matches the "rendering" on the cover perfectly. In fact, parts of the cover I thought might have been fanciful additions to the basic Fallingwater sketch turned out to be completely accurate. tDR, what are you people up to? I now commit this message to the void... magic hands
1997-02-05 22:35Zenon M. FeszczakAt 15:01 -0500 05.02.97, you wrote: > Since my speculation on the parallels between the co
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At 15:01 -0500 05.02.97, you wrote:
quoted 12 lines Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for > Envane and Frank Lloyd Wright's masterpiece "Fallingwater" failed > to generate even a hint of a thread, I have no reason to hope > anyone's ineterested in my confirmation of the connection between > the two. > > I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The > photograph of Fallingwater on the dustcover matches the "rendering" > on the cover perfectly. In fact, parts of the cover I thought might > have been fanciful additions to the basic Fallingwater sketch > turned out to be completely accurate. >
It's a fascinating observation. These sorts of cross-disciplinary inspirations always intrigue me. Wright's architecture is simply brilliant. And I could see where Autechre might find inspiration in the angular style, modern and classical at once, beautiful tranquility created from harsh industrial elements. One could say that in architecture, nothing really new has happened in the second half of this century. In the first half, Art Nouveau and Art Deco introduced revolutionary aesthetics. Modern architecture largely translates those ideas (especially Deco) into new media and materials. Perhaps a similar parallel can be drawn for music: new crest on an old wave? Old ideas translated into new technological media? Though perhaps the musical wave rode through the 60s. Well, check out the cultural milestones: John Cage, Music Concrete, Miles Davis, Mahavishnu, Satie's "furniture music", Skriabin's "Color Symphony" (not to mention the "Color Piano", which played lights), Symbolist poetry, Kandinsky's synaesthetic paintings that seem to visually represent jazzy idm... 3
1997-02-05 22:45James> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for > Envane and Frank Lloyd
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quoted 5 lines Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for > Envane and Frank Lloyd Wright's masterpiece "Fallingwater" failed > to generate even a hint of a thread, I have no reason to hope > anyone's ineterested in my confirmation of the connection between > the two.
It is interesting, I think. While I'm not well-read in architecture, I've felt for a while that some (not all) IDM makes serious the old joke on dancing about architecture. Some tracks by the Black Dog were the first that got me thinking about this - how layers of sound bound and joined in a track create a fluid structure, within which you walk (dance?) through as you listen to the song, travelling from one layer to another and back, with repeated listenings/walkthroughs yielding new sounds and angles and experiences. Not the most eloquent description, but it'll do for me. ;) James Jung-Hoon Seo // Oracle New Media (415) 506-3829 // jseo@us.oracle.com Chewbacca. // Harrison Ford, on the Tonight Show, when asked who among his numerous co-stars was the best kisser
1997-02-05 23:18afo> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for > Envane and Frank Lloyd
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quoted 17 lines Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for > Envane and Frank Lloyd Wright's masterpiece "Fallingwater" failed > to generate even a hint of a thread, I have no reason to hope > anyone's ineterested in my confirmation of the connection between > the two. > > I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The > photograph of Fallingwater on the dustcover matches the "rendering" > on the cover perfectly. In fact, parts of the cover I thought might > have been fanciful additions to the basic Fallingwater sketch > turned out to be completely accurate. > > tDR, what are you people up to? > > I now commit this message to the void... > > magic hands
i would gladly take part in this thread...however i sadly do not yet possess evane...hence i have no idea of the cover art... tDR are my heros..and im sure the cover kicks ass... '''''afoshekah...iron bubbel burst and some cujo smacks,,,music the earlobes it a-tacks....what?
1997-02-06 03:51GDMatt Jarsky wrote: > Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for Envan
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Matt Jarsky wrote:
quoted 4 lines Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for Envane and> Since my speculation on the parallels between the cover art for Envane and > Frank Lloyd Wright's masterpiece "Fallingwater" failed to generate even a > hint of a thread, I have no reason to hope anyone's ineterested in my > confirmation of the connection between the two.
I would comment on the cover art specifically but I haven't seen the release yet. You do bring up an interesting point re: Autechre's music and architecture, though - their work reminds me much more of static art forms (sculpture as well) than D&B or even Techno somewhat. Not that this couldn't be applied to other IDM artists as well, it's just that a lot of their releases seem to suggest this more than those of others... If I had to pick an analogous sculptor, I'd say Brancusi... GD
1997-02-06 04:19Emanuel Borsboom> I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The > photograph of Fallingwate
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quoted 7 lines I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The> I pulled my one and only FLW picture book off the shelf. The > photograph of Fallingwater on the dustcover matches the "rendering" > on the cover perfectly. In fact, parts of the cover I thought might > have been fanciful additions to the basic Fallingwater sketch > turned out to be completely accurate. > > tDR, what are you people up to?
I think this cover is an absolutely perfect match for the music contained within. Autechre's music has always struck me as very mechanical, but at the same time very natural and emotional. Similarly, FLW's Falling Water (unfortunately, I am not familiar with his other works) is made using geometric, "mechanical" shapes but is in harmony with nature. Great work, DR! I wish I could get a poster of this. I've played the music at least 30 times since I bought it two days ago, and it gets better every time. It takes me back to hearing "Chatter" from Artificial Intelligence II for the first time, and is a perfect blend of the styles of Incunabula, Amber, and Tri Repetae. I can't recommend it highly enough. Emanuel. OnNow: d'Arcangelo (who is this? has (s)he released anything else?) -- Why R Are Why / Are Y Are We?
1997-02-07 17:22Matt JarskyI've got a TIFF (1.2 megs) file ready to post showing the Envane cover and Fallingwater. I
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I've got a TIFF (1.2 megs) file ready to post showing the Envane cover and Fallingwater. I don't want to post to IDM for fear of overloading any number of unsuspecting small mailboxes. Lemme know if you want it. magic hands