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1996-11-04 18:44James (idm) DJ Vadim?
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1996-11-05 16:54Otto Koppius Re: (idm) DJ Vadim?
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1996-11-04 18:44JamesMelody Maker review says DJ Vadim's new album on Ninja Tune ("USSR" something) blows away
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Melody Maker review says DJ Vadim's new album on Ninja Tune ("USSR" something) blows away DJ Shadow, as far as inventive hip-hop goes. Anyone care to review the album? Is it really comparable to Endtroducing? DJ Shadow is also dissed elsewhere in the weekly, like how his stuff lacks "soul" and other musicians are touted as the "real thing". Critics can be so sad sometimes. On now:: Spacetime Continuum: the Herbert remix James Jung-Hoon Seo // Oracle New Media (415) 506-3829 // jseo@us.oracle.com My whole thing is to take completely retarded songs and turn them into something of my own. What can I bring to a song that's already been done well? // Mark Kozelek
1996-11-05 15:33cs5hinc@cis.qmced.ac.uk> From: SMTP%"JSEO@us.oracle.com" 4-NOV-1996 20:50 > To: idm@hyperreal.com > CC: > Subj: (
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quoted 13 lines From: SMTP%"JSEO@us.oracle.com" 4-NOV-1996 20:50> From: SMTP%"JSEO@us.oracle.com" 4-NOV-1996 20:50 > To: idm@hyperreal.com > CC: > Subj: (idm) DJ Vadim? > > > Melody Maker review says DJ Vadim's new album on Ninja Tune ("USSR" something) > blows away DJ Shadow, as far as inventive hip-hop goes. Anyone care to review > the album? Is it really comparable to Endtroducing? > > DJ Shadow is also dissed elsewhere in the weekly, like how his stuff lacks > "soul" and other musicians are touted as the "real thing". Critics can be so > sad sometimes.
I really don't get the British music rag's attitude at all sometimes. "Endtroducing" is a fine album in a very different way to the DJ Vadim album "USSR Repertoire". The DJ Shadow sound seems to me to be different to a lot of stuff lumped under the hip-hop/trip-hop banner, in that it has a warmth and feel of its own that a lot of the 'sampler-generated' music (which rely alone on the original sample to bring atmosphere) hasn't. The DJ Vadim album is a fantastic, if slightly over-long, listen. DJ Vadim has struck a rich vein of huge beats which have been a real pain to my neighbours (I'm sure there must be subliminal 'TURN-IT-UP' messages in it somewhere). The comparisons to Ligetti and Stockhausen in a hip-hop stylee are unfounded. It's really just lazy, clever-referencing, journalism. Vadim himself has groove through and through but as an aural innovator he makes a great DJ. Buy it though, it's thouroughly worth most anyones money - or get the single "Aural Prostitution" which clocks in at over 40mins long and has some fantastic mixes (especially DJ Cam's minimalistic masterpiece and Andre Gurov's stop-start vocal mix [with that bloke out of Earthling if I'm not mistaken]). Also, for similar, check out the Jazz Fudge label's compilation "Organised Sound" which has DJ Vadim tracks which are mighty fine among some other great (Justin Broadricks mix of The Palace Brothers for example) and decidedly not so great tracks. Rubyjune.
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1996-11-05 16:54Otto KoppiusOn 04 Nov 96 10:44:34 -0800, James <JSEO@us.oracle.com> wrote: >Melody Maker review says D
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On 04 Nov 96 10:44:34 -0800, James <JSEO@us.oracle.com> wrote:
quoted 3 lines Melody Maker review says DJ Vadim's new album on Ninja Tune ("USSR" somethi>Melody Maker review says DJ Vadim's new album on Ninja Tune ("USSR" something) >blows away DJ Shadow, as far as inventive hip-hop goes. Anyone care to review >the album? Is it really comparable to Endtroducing?
I don't know about the album (haven't heard it yet), but he's got two tracks on the NinjaTune comp 'Funkjazztical tricknology' (or something like that) which I thought were the two best tracks from the album. It fits in the NT style of music, but at the same time offers a whole new view of the genre. Very good stuff. Otto OnNow: Dr. Octagon (almost as good as Earthling!)
1996-11-07 10:52cs5hinc@cis.qmced.ac.ukAbove track "Ice vs Palace - More Brother Dub" is available on Jazz Fudge's "Organised Sou
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Above track "Ice vs Palace - More Brother Dub" is available on Jazz Fudge's "Organised Sound" compilation and also a version of it is available on Kevin Martin's **EXCELLENT** new "Macro Dub Infection 2" (it claims to be a remix but it's more of a fade out). I don't know who distributes Jazz Fudge (it's Vadim's own label based in North London) but M.D.I.2 is through Virgin. Rubyjune.
1996-11-07 15:45William D. VanLoo> Kevin Martin's **EXCELLENT** new "Macro Dub Infection 2" (it claims to be a ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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quoted 1 line Kevin Martin's **EXCELLENT** new "Macro Dub Infection 2" (it claims to be a> Kevin Martin's **EXCELLENT** new "Macro Dub Infection 2" (it claims to be a
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is the first I've heard about this compilation. I've got the first one; I dig it - what's the scoop on the new one? Is it distributed through Caroline like the first one? Double disk? Questions, questions... Bill/dj marathon wdvanloo@mtu.edu >
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