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Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm- centered magazines to get a subscription to here in the USA. I've read Muzik, but it's sorta overwhelming and maybe a little too club-centered. What's this Urb all about? Are there any magazines that concentrate almost strictly on listening techno, crazy electronica, and idm? Thanks for any input, Brian _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Re: (idm) You ain't gonna believe this one... From: marmoset@mich.com at X500 Date: 9/16/96 5:02 pm :Squarepusher and Plug in Rolling Stone...can a cover be far behind? Oh, :and there's a profile on Underworld in it too. Odd that no one's mentioned the current Spin, with Rage Against The Breadmachine And Its Infernal Muffins on the cover. There's a series of stories (nearly 10 pages), under the banner _Drums and Wires_. They seem quite concerned about what it will take to make electronica mainstream in the Yoo Ess Ayyy. They vote for glitzy stage shows and vocals, of course... Yr. money's probably better spent on the latest Urb with Juan Atkins on the cover, though. ---------------------------------------------------------- dave walker, network support specialist detroit art services <marmoset@mich.com> ---------------------------------------------------------- on now: Burial Mix 01

On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote:

quoted 7 lines Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm-

> > Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm- > centered magazines to get a subscription to here in the USA. I've read Muzik, > but it's sorta overwhelming and maybe a little too club-centered. What's this > Urb all about? Are there any magazines that concentrate almost strictly on > listening techno, crazy electronica, and idm? >

Urb. 'bout it. Some of the indy magazines like B Side have issues that touch on IDM, but Urb has Juan Atkins on the cover. Plus reports from netizens like Tamara Palmer, DJ Teep and Dan Sicko. And reading a little about hip hop won't kill ya. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Other people are NOT merely the comfy pillows on the couch of your life. Home Page, featuring Reagan on Black Velvet, the EMP Compilation CD, samples of my music, etc http://soli.inav.net/~kent/ Kent Williams kent@inav.net CADSI 2651 Crosspark Road Coralville IA 52241 (319) 338 6053 (home) (319) 626 6700 x 219 (work) (319) 626 3489 (fax)

You could try flicking through The Wire - recent issues have featured Squarepusher, Plug, Jake S. and The Black Dog, and they review many IDM releases. Two warnings though - They feature a wide range of styles from modern classical through jazz and techno, and also they are monthly, so their reviews are often a few weeks behind. Reviews are generally well written and perceptive, though prone to wallow in upitsownarse arty wank if left unattended, hope this helps you in your search, mike On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote:

quoted 9 lines Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm-

> > Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm- > centered magazines to get a subscription to here in the USA. I've read Muzik, > but it's sorta overwhelming and maybe a little too club-centered. What's this > Urb all about? Are there any magazines that concentrate almost strictly on > listening techno, crazy electronica, and idm? > > Thanks for any input, > Brian

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, James B Gill wrote:

quoted 11 lines On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote:

> On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote: > > > > > Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm- > > centered magazines to get a subscription to here in the USA. I've read Muzik, > > but it's sorta overwhelming and maybe a little too club-centered. What's this > > Urb all about? Are there any magazines that concentrate almost strictly on > > listening techno, crazy electronica, and idm? > > magazines/record reviews suck. >

Well, as someone who publishes something that sucks, and writes quite a few critiques, that, uh, I guess "suck", as well, I'm not sure if I should take that as a) a compliment; b) a swipe at alternative rock publications (I would therefore have to agree); or c) all magazines in which record reviews exist, or as your statement implies, simply ALL magazines. So to answer Brian's your original question as to what Urb is all about, I guess, according to you James, SUCKING--what else? Andrew Resonance Magazine

On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, Andrew Monko wrote:

quoted 10 lines magazines/record reviews suck.

> > magazines/record reviews suck. > > > > Well, as someone who publishes something that sucks, and writes quite a > few critiques, that, uh, I guess "suck", as well, I'm not sure if I should > take that as a) a compliment; b) a swipe at alternative rock > publications (I would therefore have to agree); or c) all magazines in > which record reviews exist, or as your statement implies, simply ALL > magazines. >

as my statement implies, to an extent, all MAGS SUCK. This is the same as most all media. Subjectivism in music (which is all music reviews, most all media content, hell, pretty much anything that someone comments on in the media/newspaper/mags) is not avoidable; once anyone reviews something it becomes subjective, which is the same as saying nothing. Not even artists should give reviews of their own stuff.

quoted 3 lines So to answer Brian's your original question as to what Urb is all about, I

> So to answer Brian's your original question as to what Urb is all about, I > guess, according to you James, SUCKING--what else? >

in a nutshell, yes. But it isn't just URB (but more so than most mags!); if you want to know what something sounds like, don't listen to some wanker who can't come up with a descriptive adjective to save his life. Listen to it for yourself before buying, or take the chance. After all, if it's a "screaming breakbeat superdubathon with tons o bass," how can you go wrong? 8>/

quoted 3 lines On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, James B Gill wrote:

> On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, James B Gill wrote: > > > magazines/record reviews suck.

You forgot to add: "huh huh,..huh huh,.. yeah! yeah!"

On Thu, 19 Sep 1996, Doctor Owl wrote:

quoted 9 lines On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, James B Gill wrote:

> > > On Wed, 18 Sep 1996, James B Gill wrote: > > > > > magazines/record reviews suck. > > > You forgot to add: "huh huh,..huh huh,.. yeah! yeah!" > >

this is as funny as my reply. (take that as you will).

Muzik, if you like to read reviews of the new releases while they're still new. Some of the features in Muzik can a bit obnoxious, and it seems that a 'fair to good' rating for it's reviews is 5 out of 5, but I still like to read it for it's coverage of new material. Urb has a nice city-to-city Jungle report which I like, and definitely covers events in the US like no other magazine does. Reviews, ... informative but after-the-fact.

quoted 17 lines On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote:

> On 18 Sep 1996, BRIAN ANTONAK wrote: > > > > > Speaking of idm and magazines, I was wondering what people think are good idm- > > centered magazines to get a subscription to here in the USA. I've read Muzik, > > but it's sorta overwhelming and maybe a little too club-centered. What's this > > Urb all about? Are there any magazines that concentrate almost strictly on > > listening techno, crazy electronica, and idm? > > > > Urb. 'bout it. > > Some of the indy magazines like B Side have issues that touch on IDM, but > Urb has Juan Atkins on the cover. Plus reports from netizens like Tamara > Palmer, DJ Teep and Dan Sicko. > > And reading a little about hip hop won't kill ya.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Enquiring minds want to know. Brian J Tang NYC Like Mine +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

What I find most interesting about reviews of Underground muzak is that I _chose_ to listen to Underground muzak because I wasn't interested in being told what I should or should not like. David Seruyange Mad African