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1996-03-29 23:16James (idm) IDM aesthetic
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1996-03-30 15:35Eylon Israeli Re: (idm) IDM aesthetic
1996-03-30 15:58tony costa (idm) IDM aesthetic
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1996-03-29 23:16JamesOne of the "I LOVE you Autechre guys, man..." emails touched on how Autechre's music was i
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One of the "I LOVE you Autechre guys, man..." emails touched on how Autechre's music was impenetrable. Which reminded me of something I was wondering about: Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM art/presentation, from the perspective of design? Also, what are your opinions? In particular, I'm interested in any analysis of Designers Republic's work, and also of IDM song titles / artists' presentation of themselves. The reason the Autechre outpouring-of-love email reminded me of this was that Autechre are one of many IDM acts who specialize in opaque, what-the-f**k titles. (Eutow? Leterel? Second Bad Vilbel?) The mysterious, vaguely mechanical sounding titles seem to add yet another dimension to the edgy, angular, "hard" tone of their music and (non-)image. Seems like this is one kind of "techno" aesthetic, which might cover some of the output by Aphex, Seefeel/Disjecta, and some Warp AI folks (all somewhat touched by the hands of DR). In one sense, the aesthetic looks like a growth/development from the work that Peter Saville did for New Order - the record covers with no band name or picture, just obscure images and designs. I remember there was an essay called "How Cool is Cold?" sometime in the eighties, discussing how these "cold", opaque designs were becoming hip and important. I'm wondering if there is a 90's version of such an essay/writing, that takes a survey of what's going on now in IDM-land. Is the recent book collecting techno record covers such a thing? Obviously, the mysterious/mechanical 'look' or design isn't the only kind you see in IDM releases. I loved the cover/titles for Locust's last album, because they were so out of whack with the Warp-ish look/naming. But the opaque image is used by a lot of artists. One reason I can suggest is that the music itself doesn't conjure up specific images, or the artists don't want to write about specific themes and express them in particular terms. Autechre probably won't ever write a song with sweet melodies and call it "Kissing You (Is the Best Thing)" and put an image of Cupid hovering on the cover. Like one of them Hartnolls said, "Our music relates to the listener's experiences, not the other way around". (Paraphrased.) I'm not an art or design major, so please shout out if I'm talking out of the wrong orifice here. I'm just interested in design/image in music I love. Please, no "music is music, image don't matter" flames. We're on the wrong wavelength already if that's what you believe. I think image (song titles, sleeve covers, etc.) does influence you. On now: Autechre: Can't Stop Loving You Every Minute. (Officially called Garbage Bronchusevenmx24.) ;) James Jung-Hoon Seo // Oracle New Media (415) 506-3829 // jseo@us.oracle.com Excuse me, do you like pineapple? // Chungking Express
1996-03-30 03:25transmat@teleport.com>Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM >art/presenta
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quoted 6 lines Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM>Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM >art/presentation, from the perspective of design? Also, what are your >opinions? In particular, I'm interested in any analysis of Designers >Republic's work, and also of IDM song titles / artists' presentation of >themselves. >
The design magazine, Emigre, had a special issue by DR. You can probably still order it from Emigre. There web site is www.emigre.com _____________________________ ~bleep~
1996-03-30 15:35Eylon IsraeliAt 03:16 PM 3/29/96 -0800, James wrote: >mselves. > >The reason the Autechre outpouring-of
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At 03:16 PM 3/29/96 -0800, James wrote:
quoted 10 lines mselves.>mselves. > >The reason the Autechre outpouring-of-love email reminded me of this was that >Autechre are one of many IDM acts who specialize in opaque, what-the-f**k >titles. (Eutow? Leterel? Second Bad Vilbel?) The mysterious, vaguely >mechanical sounding titles seem to add yet another dimension to the edgy, >angular, "hard" tone of their music and (non-)image. Seems like this is one >kind of "techno" aesthetic, which might cover some of the output by Aphex, >Seefeel/Disjecta, and some Warp AI folks (all somewhat touched by the hands of >DR).
It seems to me that all those names come mainly from the fact that when one saves a midi file he usualy doesn't think of a meaningful name to put it under but rather punches whatever his mind comes up with at the time. Usually it's an idiosynchrecy of some form, and inside joke or the microsoft 8 character limitation. When it comes down to putting it on record, the name sticks or transform a bit but the meaningless remains. oh, ofcource it's also cool ;) snowjob@actcom.co.il The Morpheus Equation: Start + Middle + End = Sand
1996-03-30 15:58tony costa>Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM >art/presenta
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quoted 5 lines Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM>Has there been any articles/books written or discussions of some of the IDM >art/presentation, from the perspective of design? Also, what are your >opinions? In particular, I'm interested in any analysis of Designers >Republic's work, and also of IDM song titles / artists' presentation of >themselves.
a few issues back, emigre magazine (a design-oriented quarterly) has an issue concerning the design practice of design republic. emigre has a web page (http://www.emigre.com) where you can find out about it... below is the issue description from their site. i think you can order online. tcosta. Issue 29 : The Designers Republic $7.95 More pixel-piracy on the Hi-Techno from The Bastard Ventolin Kids a.k.a. The Designers Republic. Based in Sheffield, England this design group is known best for their influential design work for such bands as The Orb, Pop Will Eat Itself and Age of Chance. Featured is a lengthy interview with founder Ian Anderson as well as a 12-page insert specially designed by The Designers Republic for Emigre magazine. If you believe there's no place for personal expression in graphic design, please do not purchase this issue.