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Robert Feuchtl
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Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:46:21 +0200
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Re: [idm] fiction reading, writing
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quoted 11 lines in the same way, science-fiction reality happens in our minds for the> > in the same way, science-fiction reality happens in our minds for the > first time when we read it. this reality is not one that the writers > saw in the real world. it is a complitely synthetically fabricated > world which the writers weave according to their own imagination and > then record into paper and harddisks in order our brains to give life > to it later. > > that's how electronic music and science-fiction are similar in > "artificiality" and that's probably one of the reasons why so many > people enjoy these genres.
i´m sorry friend. can´t agree with that. the scifi I mostly always admired is sometimes a predicted future, yes but not necessarily artifial nature (jack vance is quite hippie / fantasy stuff in a sophisticated scientific way)... I am simply fascinated by the possibilties of the future (frank herbert, p.k. dick). they feedback backwards towards our life. sci fi was an hatred genre because ppl thought it has nothing to do with their lifes.. this made the authors of these times even more mad about writing real shit.. that, and the (re)discovery of drugs and psychology, zen-philosophy etc. in the early 60ies towards the late 60ies layed the ground for the golden age of scifi which definetly was in that era. and john brunner is a fucking genious of giving real life stories a dark and thrilling psychologic twist.. i don´t understand why nobody ever plundered his books for film. aynways, thats also scifi and absolutely not artificial... i think its just the slick black / silver polished spaceships and an affection for high-tec we have since getting paralyzed by THX1138, blade runner and alien ... :) is "stalker" scifi? is it artificial? :)
quoted 8 lines well, that's for now,> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > well, that's for now, > dobri > > > "The best way to predict the future is to go (mentally) in the > direction in which our fears grow."
yeah. but I totally agree with that... :)
quoted 2 lines "What some people perceive as the End of the World, for History is> "What some people perceive as the End of the World, for History is > just the sign that Future is coming."
u should have told that to the dinosaurs ;)
quoted 36 lines seek wrote:> > > seek wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enquiries" >> >>> My own recommendations: >>> Jorge Luis Borges - anything, but particularly the collection called >>> Labyrinths, not sci-fi, but what the heck, deals with the infinite >>> Thomas Pynchon - has to be Gravity's Rainbow really. >>> Samuel R. Delaney - dhalgren, don't know where to start, just read it. >>> Jeff Noon - the earlier ones, particularly Vurt and Pollen. >>> Donald Barthelme - again not really sci-fi, but freaky enough to >>> include. >>> >> >> >> >> Now ~that~ is a worthwhile reading list. >> >> seek >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> >> >> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > >
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