Yup. I don't mean to poop on kracfive or anything; they may be
superior artists in some regards.
<soap box>
But I did want to argue that we tend to paint ourselves into a corner
with these arguments of primacy and novelty. On the one hand, we tend
to value artists who came 'first' in a particular style or technique,
which would suggest a valuation of history and the past. On the other
hand, we tend to prize 'newness' and a typically modernist hostility to
the past and anything that has already been done. As a result, we tend
to celebrate an artists for 'creating' something new and different, but
then we immediately dismiss their style or sound as 'out of bounds' for
other artists (or even for the same artist later in life). There's a
lot of beautiful and important cultural production that repeats and
reuses previous work, and we--who listen to and enjoy music that is
often looped, repetitive and made from samples of previous
works--should be last to criticize.
</soap box>
OK. That's outta my system now. I'm gonna go rollerblading.
Luis
On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 10:37 AM, Tim Moore wrote:
quoted 76 lines You forgot first != best
> You forgot first != best
> -- Tim Moore
>
> On Sep 5, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Luis-Manuel Garcia wrote:
>
>>
>> new != better
>>
>> novelty != authenticity
>>
>> cheers,
>> Luis
>>
>> On Sunday, September 5, 2004, at 09:09 AM, Alan Lucas wrote:
>>
>>> I have yet to hear the new Bjork, but it's too bad that there are a
>>> lot of people out there who think she's done some amazingly new and
>>> original thing.
>>>
>>> Kracfive records was doing the same thing three years ago. Check out
>>> Original Instrument:
>>>
>>> http://www.kracfive.com/content/index.php?release=kfat009cd.htm
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 23:06:27 -0500, Luis-Manuel Garcia
>>> <lgarcia@uchicago.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Has anybody else picked up the new Bjork album yet? I'm still in
>>>> the
>>>> middle of my "listen repeatedly" phase, but I'm really warming up to
>>>> it. There's lots of great tracks and, as someone who studied voice
>>>> and
>>>> did a lot of non-western singing styles, I'm fascinated by what she
>>>> did
>>>> with the human voice. Most of the tracks are close to entirely
>>>> vocal
>>>> samples of various sorts, although some of these make use of digital
>>>> transformations to create granular and oddly-pitched effects. I'm
>>>> guessing that track 6 ("Who is it") will be her most accessible
>>>> ballad-hit, while track 14 ("Triumph of a Heart") will be remixed
>>>> for
>>>> the dancefloor over and over. The album isn't for everyone, I
>>>> suppose,
>>>> but I'm really loving it.
>>>>
>>>> cheerio,
>>>> Luis
>>>>
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