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Fri, 18 Oct 2002 11:07:51 -0400
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Re: [idm] Music #2
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quoted 18 lines Wow, I came from the opposite end of the spectrum. I>Wow, I came from the opposite end of the spectrum. I >was heavily into hardcore rock stuff like sepultura, >morbid angel, slayer, will haven, training for utopia, >deftones, vision of disorder and other stuff like >that. I was in a few bands in high school, and I >ended up getting into electronic music (and then by >extension IDM) around my junior year. The people in >my band sucked and I found out through a few friends >online about impulse tracker and the whole tracker >scene. From there I first started hearing some >electronic tracks (although most of them really >sucked). I think roni size's newforms was the first >electronic cd I bought. After that, it was all >downhill. Even though I still enjoy rock >occasionally, there just seems to be only so much you >can do with guitars, bass, drums, and vocals. I'm >much more interested in the infinite variety of sounds >and textures of any good idm track.
I was listening to stuff like Tears for Fears, then found out that they weren't really doing anything anymore. Then I was listening to Crowded House, and found that they also pretty much stopped doing stuff. I realized through listening to them that good lyrics are hard to find, and so I stopped caring for lyrics shortly thereafter. I was then listening to Phish, but started to dislike them after finding out how atrocious their live scene is and how boring and annoying the average Phish fan is (not to mention the near necessity of drugs among their fans, which I didn't and don't do). Their studio albums had a lot of interesting things going on, though, and it got me more into appreciating music and the sounds of the music. It also helped me realize how much I hated songs that just repeated and repeated without change, as a jam-oriented band changes stuff up a lot. So now I was like 16 and I picked up some nine inch nails stuff and despite how awful "pretty hate machine" was, the other stuff was interesting and got me more into electronic stuff and, obviously, aphex twin and then blah blah. and yeah, I think one of the things that did it for me was the rather limited sound palate used in most popular or commercial oriented music, and discovering that there *were* people who made stuff that sounded good regardless of how approachable it was was fantastic. It's funny, too, because I *still* know people who listen to rather normal rock-oriented music and hear an effect and think "wow, that's a cool effect, I'd love to hear it used more," and then, of course, hearing a song that uses that effect in entirely interesting and worthwhile ways throughout the song and builds different sounds through that effect (like, say, granular synthesis or even just creative sampling) and only comment "yeah, that's neat, but I don't reall like it." I think a lot of it has to do with the stuff associated with the music, either a well-known name for some people or non-standard countries (like that atrocious french hip hop, ugh!), that gets people into music. I've been enjoying IDM and the IDM-list for years now, most thankfully due to the fact that there are people in the "scene" that are interested in hearing new music by new people and listen based entirely on the music, not on the on-stage antics or the history of the lead singer or how cool they are in the college rawk scene. derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org