the other good benefit of using the tape 4 track is that it gives the
pc created tunes a softer analog vibe.
i record the tunes on to the 4 track from the computer. so a certain
digital brightness is taken away. i like that. it softens it up a bit
giving the beats a bit more bottomness. not so harsh high end.
it is a tool that's definitely worthwhile, but just using the laptop
onstage is nothing but lipsyncing without the singing. i could
go to the guy's house and have him turn on his laptop. it's nothing
more than a computer running a program. that's NOT live performance.
and yea...coming from a musician background, i do have issues with
that as well. i've been a guitarist for over 18 years. i integrate the
technology into my musical self, not let it take over. i use the
technology as a tool. shouldn't be the other way around.
db
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Finoki" <finoki@lucasarts.com>
To: "'professor vast'" <professorvast11@hotmail.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
quoted 5 lines Definitely.
> Definitely.
>
> Let us return to the interface of the real. Tortoise is amazing.
>
> I beleive the future of elctronic musical performances, which may fade in
to
quoted 2 lines installation art soon enough, (not the music) will be about finding new
> installation art soon enough, (not the music) will be about finding new
> tools of interface, that will then pass through lap tops and other
computer
quoted 5 lines related clutter. New instruments, new venues, architecture as the
> related clutter. New instruments, new venues, architecture as the
> interface, body, whatever. THis shit is being done, but the lap top is
> beginning to put to sleep even the lap top enthusiasts.
>
> The lap top accompaniment to Zakir Hussein and table beat science I
thought
quoted 39 lines worked. The show was amazing, sometimes it was incredible, and at other
> worked. The show was amazing, sometimes it was incredible, and at other
> times the jam seemed too hard to be striving toward a jam, a latin jam or
> something else it was not, nor ever could be, but I loved it. But you are
> looking at an entire entourage up there, and the lap top is merely one
> element.
>
> Let the lap top drift into performance theater art interpretive gestural
> aids, it is wuickly dwindling down to a mere AID.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: professor vast [mailto:professorvast11@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:39 AM
> To: idm@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
>
>
> i have to agree with this... laptops on stage are becoming lame...
>
> whenever i play live... i use my good ole tascam tape 4 track
> to run the backing tracks. i like using the knobs for each
> track to mix each individual track in and out and being
> able to pan things whenever i want without using the mouse
>
> creating the tunes is enough mouse/keyboard work for me.
> playing live shouldn't be a computer thing...
>
> what about the good old days when the cocteau twins would
> have their giant tape machine running the drum beats??
>
> pv
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Horton" <sean_horton@hotmail.com>
> To: <finoki@lucasarts.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:27 AM
> Subject: RE: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
>
>
> > Personally if you're sitting up there staring a lap top (Phoenicia,
Plaid,
quoted 4 lines Richard Devine, Kid 606, etc) it's not a live performance in my opinion
> > Richard Devine, Kid 606, etc) it's not a live performance in my opinion
> > (even if they are dancing around on stage with their shirt off). I have
> been
> > pretty keen on what these acts were actually doing live and most have
just
quoted 5 lines been playing back sequences with out any real variation from the album.
> > been playing back sequences with out any real variation from the album.
> > Either that our setting up a very long track and doing live effects
> > processing/knob twiddling which I find to be quite boring (Autechre).
> >
> > Mouse on Mars, Mum, and Tortoise spend 3-4 hours doing a sound check,
lug
quoted 3 lines equipment all over the globe, improvise and communicate with both the
> > equipment all over the globe, improvise and communicate with both the
> crowd
> > and each other on stage. That is a performance. I refuse to pay to see
any
quoted 1 line more lap top "performances". I'll go home and listen to the
> > more lap top "performances". I'll go home and listen to the
"performance"
quoted 75 lines in
> in
> > the comfort of my own home. To be honest I would rather go hear a DJ. At
> > least they can keep a consistant groove.
> >
> > I am a lap top performer, so I shouldn't talk. I am however working with
> > musicians on a live set. This, to me, is the necessary progression of
> > electronic music in the live realm. Do any of you agree?
> >
> >
> > >From: Bryan Finoki <finoki@lucasarts.com>
> > >To: 'George Williamson' <georgewilliamson@btinternet.com>, idm list
> > ><idm@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [idm] Who performed the best live act that you have
> > >seen/remember/reccomend?
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:01:12 -0700
> > >
> > >Could people maybe add a little *why* they were the best?
> > >
> > >I am trying to get at what risks, what feats, what real live tweaking
> > >madness the musicians are accomplishing at their shows. To what extent
> are
> > >they doign anything up there?
> > >
> > >I saw Phoenicia not long ago, who gave a pretty sick demonstration of
> > >LOGIC.
> > >
> > >Chris Wessin, when with the oRB was pretty amazing live engineer.
> > >
> > >YOU MIGHT EVEN SAY THE BLUE MEN!!!!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: George Williamson [mailto:georgewilliamson@btinternet.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:58 AM
> > >To: idm list
> > >Subject: Re: [idm] Who performed the best live act that you have
> > >seen/remember/reccomend?
> > >
> > >
> > >Richard Devine on the Warp Magic bus tour
> > >
> > >or
> > >
> > >Broadcast in Edinburgh
> > >
> > >georgewilliamson
> > >
> > >
> > >
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