I agree that lap tops should be used and can even be the focal point of a
performance, but there needs to be other elements and ways of communicating
musically. Tabla Beat Science is a perfect example. Ronnie Size (forgive me)
is another, even though I can't stand his music. I just can't figure out why
this type of fusion has taken off more. Locally (Seattle) it is becoming
more of a norm.
quoted 153 lines From: Bryan Finoki <finoki@lucasarts.com>
>From: Bryan Finoki <finoki@lucasarts.com>
>To: 'professor vast' <professorvast11@hotmail.com>, idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: RE: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
>Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:47:55 -0700
>
>Definitely.
>
>Let us return to the interface of the real. Tortoise is amazing.
>
>I beleive the future of elctronic musical performances, which may fade in
>to
>installation art soon enough, (not the music) will be about finding new
>tools of interface, that will then pass through lap tops and other computer
>related clutter. New instruments, new venues, architecture as the
>interface, body, whatever. THis shit is being done, but the lap top is
>beginning to put to sleep even the lap top enthusiasts.
>
>The lap top accompaniment to Zakir Hussein and table beat science I thought
>worked. The show was amazing, sometimes it was incredible, and at other
>times the jam seemed too hard to be striving toward a jam, a latin jam or
>something else it was not, nor ever could be, but I loved it. But you are
>looking at an entire entourage up there, and the lap top is merely one
>element.
>
>Let the lap top drift into performance theater art interpretive gestural
>aids, it is wuickly dwindling down to a mere AID.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: professor vast [mailto:professorvast11@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:39 AM
>To: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
>
>
>i have to agree with this... laptops on stage are becoming lame...
>
>whenever i play live... i use my good ole tascam tape 4 track
>to run the backing tracks. i like using the knobs for each
>track to mix each individual track in and out and being
>able to pan things whenever i want without using the mouse
>
>creating the tunes is enough mouse/keyboard work for me.
>playing live shouldn't be a computer thing...
>
>what about the good old days when the cocteau twins would
>have their giant tape machine running the drum beats??
>
>pv
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Sean Horton" <sean_horton@hotmail.com>
>To: <finoki@lucasarts.com>; <idm@hyperreal.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:27 AM
>Subject: RE: [idm] Are Lap Top performances really performances?
>
>
> > Personally if you're sitting up there staring a lap top (Phoenicia,
>Plaid,
> > Richard Devine, Kid 606, etc) it's not a live performance in my opinion
> > (even if they are dancing around on stage with their shirt off). I have
>been
> > pretty keen on what these acts were actually doing live and most have
>just
> > been playing back sequences with out any real variation from the album.
> > Either that our setting up a very long track and doing live effects
> > processing/knob twiddling which I find to be quite boring (Autechre).
> >
> > Mouse on Mars, Mum, and Tortoise spend 3-4 hours doing a sound check,
>lug
> > equipment all over the globe, improvise and communicate with both the
>crowd
> > and each other on stage. That is a performance. I refuse to pay to see
>any
> > more lap top "performances". I'll go home and listen to the
>"performance"
>in
> > the comfort of my own home. To be honest I would rather go hear a DJ. At
> > least they can keep a consistant groove.
> >
> > I am a lap top performer, so I shouldn't talk. I am however working with
> > musicians on a live set. This, to me, is the necessary progression of
> > electronic music in the live realm. Do any of you agree?
> >
> >
> > >From: Bryan Finoki <finoki@lucasarts.com>
> > >To: 'George Williamson' <georgewilliamson@btinternet.com>, idm list
> > ><idm@hyperreal.org>
> > >Subject: RE: [idm] Who performed the best live act that you have
> > >seen/remember/reccomend?
> > >Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:01:12 -0700
> > >
> > >Could people maybe add a little *why* they were the best?
> > >
> > >I am trying to get at what risks, what feats, what real live tweaking
> > >madness the musicians are accomplishing at their shows. To what extent
>are
> > >they doign anything up there?
> > >
> > >I saw Phoenicia not long ago, who gave a pretty sick demonstration of
> > >LOGIC.
> > >
> > >Chris Wessin, when with the oRB was pretty amazing live engineer.
> > >
> > >YOU MIGHT EVEN SAY THE BLUE MEN!!!!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: George Williamson [mailto:georgewilliamson@btinternet.com]
> > >Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:58 AM
> > >To: idm list
> > >Subject: Re: [idm] Who performed the best live act that you have
> > >seen/remember/reccomend?
> > >
> > >
> > >Richard Devine on the Warp Magic bus tour
> > >
> > >or
> > >
> > >Broadcast in Edinburgh
> > >
> > >georgewilliamson
> > >
> > >
> > >
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