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Jason Stickel
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Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:45:00 -0400
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[idm] Enough is Enough
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Well said Jeff... to sum everyone's thoughts up... Omar sucks Omar is misunderstood Omar is one hella-cool dude I have never had issue with the man, in fact I have had rather insightful discussions in the past...let's move on. JS
quoted 65 lines From: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>>From: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com> >To: Christopher Dilkus <cpdilkus@snip.net>,idm@hyperreal.org >CC: Oways@msn.com >Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) >Date: Sat, 08 Jun 2002 09:47:57 -0500 > >At 01:14 AM 6/8/2002, Christopher Dilkus wrote: >>Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few >>times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid >>to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play >>like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he can >>and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I can say >>for most. >> >>Chris >> >>On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Omar Hackett wrote: > >My first "meeting" with Omar was an offlist, heated argument which went on >for a good week - maybe two. That was several years back. Since then we >have met face to face when I was in Chicago a few years ago. I have to say >that sometimes he starts his own fires (he knows it and isn't always happy >about it), but he says what he thinks and feels - point blank. He also >knows what he likes but tries to go beyond and see what else is out there. >He's genuine, whether you like you what see or not. That's more than I can >say for everyone who drops a post on IDM-l. > Additionally (having spent some time with him), he's a nice guy - >respectful and decent. Being a smartass myself, I understand that he can be >an easy target in this forum. I guess I would say that just because a >target presents itself doesn't mean you should take aim. If you have an >issue with him, there are ways to challenge which don't involve "the >posture" and from my initial experiences in doing this with him, he'll >treat you with the integrity you show him - even if you call him on the >carpet (offlist). >Another thing I might add is that in these internet "communities", the >little most of know about each other subsists (for the most part) in text >on a screen and some don't translate as well as others in this >hermeneutically challenged format. There is more to any person than the >decontextualized banter accessed via the inbox. It gets all-too-easy to >dismiss people based on something they've written in haste, something >they've possibly said in a way which wasn't the best way to say it, >something they might wish they wouldn't have said. Elephants have nothing >on email lists. > This particular list has had a history of cynicism and posturing >inculcated with it. I'm not trying to soapbox - I'm as jaded as the next >person here and I take my humor where I find it as well. Sometimes it's >important to get beyond the zeitgeist, draw back and see the part one plays >in the trends which permeate these lists - especially keeping in mind that >there are people behind the textual fronts that we all have and use. It >seems like we should be able to deal with our differences with a bit more >integrity without walking on eggshells and losing the edginess. Maybe not. >Personally I'm more prone to lend my ear to someone who manages to post >using an email address which they did not create as an alias for the >purpose of engaging in flame wars. If you're going to post, at least have >the balls to "show yourself". I always find it fascinating that people will >take so much time and trouble to deal with an opinion or a person whom they >ostensibly find less than worthwhile. Just my .02 . > > jeff > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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