People who are true game changers dont flame themselves around as social
justice warriors. Nat hawks you sound like a snowflake. You really dont do
your perceived "cause" any favours by berating to others what they should
or shouldnt do. Your arguments end up looking childish and uneloquent. Not
even going anywhere near the fact its ridiculous to be so worked up over
words.
On Mon, 26 Mar 2018, 06:03 nat hawks, <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
quoted 107 lines Charles, what do you mean to really say? Please say it more directly.> Charles, what do you mean to really say? Please say it more directly.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 25, 2018, at 5:50 PM, Charles Terhune <crtdot@icloud.com> wrote:
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> Existential Boops was actually Beatwife’s original choice for a name.
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> - CRT
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> On Mar 25, 2018, at 5:27 PM, Connor Higgins <connor1higgins@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Dumb name, good music. Confield is best AE album when your needing the
> existential boops.
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> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 2:23 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> also very curious about that.
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>> what would Mira Calix say? Holly Herndon?
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>> *From:* Lee Swagerty <leeswagerty@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 5:21 PM
>> *To:* nat hawks
>> *Cc:* Juho Hietala; Zombiefly; 22tape; IDM List
>> *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast
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>> This thread is hilarious.... and yeah most activity on the list in awhile.
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>> If only there was a woman to voice an opinion — but nope, just a sausage
>> fest haha.
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>> — Lee
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>> On Sun, Mar 25, 2018 at 4:10 PM, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Is this name 'beatwife' not an example of direct misogyny?
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>> This is a community, and within one's own community is a great place to
>> start.
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>> I went 'personal' rather quickly, totally fair... too quickly. I was
>> just more outraged that others took the 'just don't buy the album' approach.
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>> *From:* Juho Hietala <hietala@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 25, 2018 3:32 PM
>> *To:* nat hawks
>> *Cc:* Zombiefly; 22tape; IDM List
>> *Subject:* Re: beatwife podcast
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>> fair enough, i think your point might go over better with less attaching
>> your own current situation to it which obviously affects your
>> interpretation of someone’s silly stage name. it’s quite a lot of assuming.
>> just saying it’s distasteful is quite enough i think; by all means mail him
>> if you like to but don’t assume other people are as outraged as you are.
>> personally i’m more worried about the direct misogyny, sexism and
>> homophobia happening around us so the whole issue of someone’s dumb
>> distasteful name seems a little silly to me
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>> On 25 Mar 2018, at 19:45, nat hawks <natbot@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>> Agreed. Total slippery slope.
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>> But Beat wife is literally saying punching a woman in the face.
>> Literally. Yes, I get the pun. I'm not impressed.
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>> I'm no saint. My friends and I used to have an in-house joke band called
>> "sucky fucky". We burned one CD-R and cut n paste Asian porn photos on it.
>> We thought we were hilarious. I'd like to think I'm wiser now.
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>> My point is, apologies if I came off as 'virtuous,' but I was trying to
>> make a point.
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 25, 2018, at 1:35 PM, Zombiefly <zombiefly@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> they (he/record company/magazine etc) already know it's not ok..... or do
>> you think your disgust will be the trigger to the dawning realisation of
>> his mistake? o_O
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>> it's a name. he isn't beating wives. it's controversial. on purpose. he
>> won't care if you object, i'm sure there have been objections since 2010 or
>> whenever he started with it.
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