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Tue, 05 Jun 2001 02:09:54 -0400
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Re: [idm] dada
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"R. Lim" wrote:
quoted 7 lines On Tue, 29 May 2001 andrei@world.std.com wrote:> On Tue, 29 May 2001 andrei@world.std.com wrote: > > > music. The Fluxus movement which came later and was influenced by Dada > > was a lot more involved with music, but still I don't see a connection > > with what Autechre does. I don't find any of the absurdism, anarchy > > I wouldn't necessarily say that Fluxus was more involved in music per se,
Well, I mean you can actually name composers who were involved with the Fluxus movement (LaMonte Young for example) which you can't really do with Dada. I did once come across a mention of a Swiss composer named Hans Heuser who was involved with the Dadaists in Zurich, but I haven't been able to find any more info about him and I have a feeling he probably wasn't very special considering his obscurity.
quoted 6 lines speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the> > speak of early 20th century art movements). Futurism influenced the > > early musique concrete pioneers who in turn influenced Autechre. > > How do you figure? I could see how this might work from a sound > aesthetic, but are you referring to their extolling the virtues of > Parmegiani in an interview?
Yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying. I did say in my post that they have a very superficial (distant) connection to the Futurist sound aesthetic at best.
quoted 2 lines I ask because methodologically, Autechre's> I ask because methodologically, Autechre's > current direction seems to be opposite the approach used in concrete.
I think as far as the interest in sound processing and the use of "found" sounds they're definitely part of that continuum. Sure their tracks don't have that narrative sort of quality that "academic" concrete pieces tend to have and they don't use the same kinds of compositional structures as the academics, but as far as "sound research" they're treading pretty much the same ground.
quoted 2 lines Not to mention that I would still argue that the style that influences> Not to mention that I would still argue that the style that influences > them is the part that went furthest astray of the original Futurist goals.
Maybe you should expand on this. Andrei --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org