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From:
Digital Cutup Lounge
To:
Kurt Hoffman
Cc:
d_jak , idm
Date:
Mon, 21 May 2001 19:25:04 +0800
Subject:
Re: [idm] Is IDM art?
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Kurt Hoffman wrote:
quoted 3 lines there's a more credible definition of 'high' that has to do> there's a more credible definition of 'high' that has to do > with making a refined, sophisticated art that has enough invested in > it that it will reward sustained attention.
A lot of the contemporary electronic music I listen to certainly meets that definition...
quoted 6 lines I think the> >I think the > >'disposable' nature of much electronic music may have more to do with the > >accelerated speed at which our culture is changing > > most electronica is written in a very simple form and rarely develops > more than a simple idea or two over the course of 8 minutes
Thinking like this is misjudging dance music by the standards of other music. Contemporary electronica is not really 'about' notes, chords, and melodies IMO -- especially IDM-style stuff like Autechre. It's more about textures and sounds, and in these aspects it has a much richer vocabulary than any music composed for conventional instruments. A lot of it is also about subtle effects and transitions between sounds. Anyway, I think the most important point is that music doesn't have to be complex to be art, to be good, to be high art, or whatever. Some of the greatest art is made up of just a few elements -- how about Illbient by We if you know that track -- it only has four sounds but is a classic track IMO.
quoted 3 lines Like i say, there's nothing wrong with> Like i say, there's nothing wrong with > this, it's very dionysian, fairly unpretentious (and hell it's what > I'm listening to most of the time.)
You seem like a sophisticated listener, with taste ranging from Schoenberg to IDM. Why do *you* prefer to listen to electronic music?
quoted 2 lines but the music tends to be more> but the music tends to be more > disposable because there's less invested in it.
I'd have to disagree with that...as a producer the music I'm making is very important to me, not just something casually tossed off in a free moment... John -- John von Seggern DJ/producer Digital Cutup Lounge Hong Kong http://www.digitalcutuplounge.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org