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From:
Pjotr Stam
To:
Ben Hatchelt , Gilly ,
Date:
Mon, 21 May 2001 09:40:22 +0100 (BST)
Subject:
Re: [idm] From another list I'm on...
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As much as I don't care what's in my burger (to a certain extent offcourse >:-), as long as it tastes good, I don't care how the music is made, as long as I like it...and I like Confield, no matter what people say or do to convice me otherwise! TheTec Den Haag, The Netherlands http://www.fredscape.com np: Ladytron - 604 --- Ben Hatchelt <hatchelt@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > But what about the people who know nothing about Nord
quoted 105 lines Modular?! :)> Modular?! :) > > --- Gilly <galaxey@sdccu.net> wrote: > anonymous > wrote: > > > > There is nothing wrong with making music for > > yourself. That's missing the > > point. > > > > There is something wrong with charging me $15 + $7 > > in ticketbastard fees to > > go watch two guys do a bunch of shit i sit here and > > do with my nord modular > > anyway. > > > > Let me elaborate on this. > > > > This recent autechre tour has become the joke of the > > nord-modular list. For > > those who don't know, the Nord Modular is one of > > many synthesizers available > > on the market today. It also happens to be ae's > > primary synth, if not the > > only thing they use on some of their tracks. > > > > One of the many capabilities of the modular, > > depending on the user's > > experience and skill, is that one can actually write > > chaotic evolving > > patches. Most of us know how to do it by now, and > > we all know Autechre > > does. > > > > So this entire week the list has been filled with > > "autechre concert" patches > > from people like me pissed that they paid money to > > go hear a demo of a > > synthesizer... > > > > ...and some of them are *dead on*. perfect. > > > > which basically shows that autechre is pulling a big > > "fuck you" to their > > fans. any of us who know how to use the nord can do > > this crap. it takes a > > bit of practice learning the ramp controls and logic > > functions, but once > > you've got it down you can be Instant-Autechre. > > > > This, to me, is not music. It's a patch on a synth. > > I can sit here at home > > and listen to my own versions of it instead of > > paying $22 to stand in a > > dark, hot crowded room and listen to Sean Booth act > > like he's actually doing > > something innovative. > > > > This is "wankery" to me. It's boring. Those of you > > listening to it > > thinking "man, that's crazy...they're switching from > > 3/4 to 9/15 and > > back"...well, no, they aren't. it's a bunch of > > algorithms on a synth doing > > it, and it wouldn't matter if there was someone in > > front of the synth or > > not. > > > > So obviously, I wanted to know why Roxi liked it (do > > try to read all the > > posts before replying next time ;), not "why she > > lacks the capability of > > knowing any better" or however that was twisted. I > > think a lot of people > > like this crap because it's Autechre, and Autechre > > is cool, so they're > > supposed to like it. That's just lame. There are > > hundreds of bands out > > there doing this kind of stuff, only better. Richie > > Devine writes his own > > dsp code for his tracks, for chrissakes...Phoenecia > > melded miami booty bass > > with idm...even some of Jake Mandell's stuff has a > > weird jazzy feel on top > > of the clicks and pops...and, of course, even though > > RDJ made up all that > > junk about making his own custom synths and > > software, he still did some > > amazing stuff with supercollider and has always been > > a positive innovator in > > the electronic music scene. > > > > I just wonder if all the same people would be > > listening to a cd of this > > music if it was some unknown band. I doubt it, but > > who knows. This isn't > > an attack, so please don't read it that way. > > "Anything that separates us is junk. Cause when it > > rains, both the pope and > > the prostitute get wet" > > -Carlos Santana on racism > > :::...\|/unity in diversity\|/..::: > > > > > > >
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