i wrote:
quoted 3 lines I don't know. I'm no snob. but having spent a lot of time with> > I don't know. I'm no snob. but having spent a lot of time with
>> electronica in the last couple years, i'd have to say that most of it
>> isn't built to last particularly, it's casual, disposable culture.
johnvon@digitalcutuplounge.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines I agree -- but what does that have to do with high/low art?>
>I agree -- but what does that have to do with high/low art?
ok, so there's disposable high culture, too. but...while there's part
of high culture that's purely defined by market niche and/or cultural
cache, there's a more credible definition of 'high' that has to do
with making a refined, sophisticated art that has enough invested in
it that it will reward sustained attention.
quoted 3 lines I think the>I think the
>'disposable' nature of much electronic music may have more to do with the
>accelerated speed at which our culture is changing
well...something like Schoenberg's 2nd String Quartet emerged during
a moment of speedy and volitile cultural change. Might not be
something i listen to that often, but it is clear that there it has
considerable depth as well as astonishing invention. Every time I
listen to it, I'm grappling with it and coming away with new
experiences.
most electronica is written in a very simple form and rarely develops
more than a simple idea or two over the course of 8 minutes. and for
all the emphasis on creating news sounds, it's rare to hear a truly
surprising new sound -- more likely someone carves out a bit of
stylistic turf for themselves. Like i say, there's nothing wrong with
this, it's very dionysian, fairly unpretentious (and hell it's what
I'm listening to most of the time.) but the music tends to be more
disposable because there's less invested in it.
quoted 2 lines I dislike most of the music that comes out of that world because it's 100%>I dislike most of the music that comes out of that world because it's 100%
>head music
i don't know...are you against literature, too? how boring, sitting
around looking at text...
quoted 2 lines It>It
>seems to be taboo to use a regular beat in academia, however...
yeah, academia is fucked up and that seems to have been the death of
classical music.
At 7:38 PM -0400 5/18/01, d_jak wrote:
quoted 2 lines What about the Waltz? - a form used by many of the great "classical">What about the Waltz? - a form used by many of the great "classical"
>composers, it was created specifically with dancing in mind
Bach's undancable gavottes and jigs do seem to presage idm...
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