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Jeff/Ninja Tune
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Mon, 29 Jan 2001 18:14:06 -0500
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Re: [idm] anticon and hip-hop
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It's not a race issue it's just a musical taste issue. There are great black hip-hop artists, there are great white hip-hop artists. I have black friends with shit music taste, I have white friends with shit music taste. Hip-hop is such a global thing now I think anyone who's generally into the culture is qualified to to make comments on "what hip-hop needs" regardless of race. Just because someone is black doesn't mean they know what's best for hip-hop. I think odds are if people are into Anticon that these people at least have a basic knowledge of indie hip-hop to have arrived at Anticon. I mean we're not taking about the same sort of mentality/press exposure that has white kids thinking Insane Clown Posse are the best hip-hop group ever. And for what it's worth Quasimoto "The Unseen" is the best hip-hop record of the last while (well that and The Infesticons record we released but that would just be seen as shameless plugging on my part...ooops) Jeff on 1/29/01 5:41 PM, Rjyan Kidwell at cex@tigerbeat6.com wrote:
quoted 34 lines i fully agree with their sentiment>> i fully agree with their sentiment >> that hip-hop needs to be pushed in new directions and i appreciate their >> efforts to do so > > now, get me straight here: i'm saying white kids shouldn't listen to > hip-hop, because they all should. nor am i saying white kids shouldn't make > hip-hop or involve themselves in hip-hop culture. what i'm asking is: is a > crew of white kids really qualified to make generalizations about what > hip-hop needs to do and not do? > "OK, Jay-Z, that's all nice and good what you do, but we're here and we're > going to make hip-hop advanced now. Seeya." > > I guess I don't really have a solid opinion on Anticon, but I've encountered > quite a few of their rabid fans -- kids who don't actively listen to hip-hop > and/or buy new hip-hop records who are all too ready to say that Anticon is > the "best thing in hip-hop". Meaning, I guess, that Anticon is better than > Nelly or Shaggy or whatever is on MTV. It seriously seems like some people > think that grabbing some Anticon mp3s off Napster makes you absolved of > having to listen to any other hip-hop music. "Oh, I only listen to advanced > hip-hop. But I have some Cash Money mp3s because they're funny." > > I hate to be the one that brings up racial issues here, but they're not > going away if you stick your head in the sand. Or if you stick your head in > the internet. > > > > -rk > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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