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From:
Mark Stevens
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michelle
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Wed, 11 Oct 2000 01:06:36 +0100
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[idm] Chart/MTV Success = Shite Music
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Here's a reply to the message "Re: [idm] Kid A vs Us" written on 6 Oct 2000 13:48:26 -0000:
quoted 1 line RIGHT ON RIGHT ON RIGHT ON. Nothing pisses me off more than "Oh, well, i've hear>RIGHT ON RIGHT ON RIGHT ON. Nothing pisses me off more than "Oh, well, i've heard of this and you haven't, therefore I'm cool and you're not. Oh wait, you mean a few people know about this band? Yeah.. they suck." ...
If there's one thing that annoys me, it's those people who hate Orbital simply because they've appeared on MTV. That's how the anti-Orbital argument always starts -- mention MTV first, as if some sort of commercial profile is indicative of a lack of artistic integrity, *THEN* get around to criticising their music (albeit in a unconvincing fashion). If Orbital ain't your cup of tea, then that's fine -- but don't pretend to hate them just because they're not as "underground" as other IDM artists you like. Besides, that whole "chart/MTV success = shite music" argument is totally blown out of the water (from a UK perspective anyway) when you consider all the IDM artists who have been in the Top 40 Singles chart. Back in the late 80s/early 90s, you couldn't keep Warp Records out of the UK Top 20! Sweet Exorcist, Tricky Disco, LFO, Nightmares on Wax. They all produced Top 20 hits, folks. Don't believe me? Get a Guiness reference book. A Guy Called Gerald, 808 State, Orbital, Future Sound of London/Stakker Humanoid, Bassomatic -- Top 20 hits. Aphex Twin? Top 20. Autechre? Basscadet got to 43 (or was it 53?) in the UK's national charts. Yes, indeed -- all chart music is shite.
quoted 3 lines Radiohead is playing with fire - they could possibly alienate alot>Radiohead is playing with fire - they could possibly alienate alot >of their fans, but i'm sure that they'll be bringing in a new fan >base, too.
They alienated a lot of their fans with OK Computer too. Seems like quite a few people wanted them to rewrite Creep and Fake Plastic Trees every time.
quoted 2 lines I love Kid A. I love OK Computer. I love the bends.>I love Kid A. I love OK Computer. I love the bends. >Go radiohead.
Indeed. I much prefer those artists that actually try something "a bit different" each time round. What's the point waiting two years for a studio album to arrive, only for it be 11 tracks/45 mins worth of exactly what they did last time round? (Hello, Oasis.) np: philip glass - "symphony no.3" -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org