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i thought it was footwork but it was just a cd of snare rush's with a skip on it Clint Anderson Systems Engineer On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 205 lines did you listen to it on weed tho

> did you listen to it on weed tho > > On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> i dont think its so much a matter of 'liking' it as its really easy to >> press the same button several times >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:44 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think that there's a lot of subtlety in Jlins beats and song >>> structures; but she does like that machine-gun repeat thing. You can make >>> fun of superficial traits of her music, or meet her halfway and listen for >>> what's interesting in it. Or not; plenty of other music for you to listen >>> to. >>> >>> >>> On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 1:12 PM Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> disclaimer: don't get too pissed off, i am trolling to some degree here >>>> :) >>>> >>>> just tried to listen to jlin's dark energy and gave up .... here are >>>> some tips for footwork producers: >>>> >>>> 1. even your MPC has velocity control, that means that individual >>>> hits/notes/etc can actually be at different volumes from one another >>>> 2. the MPC can actually play samples at different pitches, in fact, you >>>> can create what are called 'melodies' consisting of two or more notes at >>>> different frequencies >>>> 3. for many decades now, devices known as 'effects' have been made >>>> available, many of which are built into your MPC -- for fun, trying >>>> applying an 'effect' to one of the sounds in your 'song' -- the results can >>>> be fascinating and are very popular in most every genre. >>>> 4. drum sounds -- did you know? you can load different drum sounds >>>> into your MPC. that's right, now, not every song has to use the same >>>> hi-hat, snare, and bassdrum, on every single one of your albums, for your >>>> entire career. >>>> 5. did you know? you can change the parameters of sounds on the MPC, >>>> using parameters like attack, decay, sustain and release, to alter your >>>> sounds >>>> 6. you can load more than 9 samples into your MPC. i know, it's >>>> confusing, because there are only 9 buttons, but, my understanding is that >>>> these buttons can actually be assigned to different sounds, and over the >>>> course of several albums, you could use different sounds on EVERY ALBUM or >>>> even every song >>>> >>>> i realize im not from the same background as people producing footwork, >>>> but i am 100% confident that a manual is provided for the MPC series >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 4:36 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Who are you and where are you from? If you were African-American and >>>>> lived in Chicago, you might not like Footwork either, but I doubt you'd >>>>> belittle the entire genre. You're allowed your opinion, but your reaction >>>>> rubbed me the wrong way; you made it sound like the people making that >>>>> music were getting away with something. >>>>> >>>>> I don't live in Chicago but I go their a fair amount and know the >>>>> music scene there fairly well; the one thing I know is that it's serious, >>>>> and highly competitive. No one gets away with making mediocre music; any >>>>> Footwork tracks you're likely to hear released on e.g. Planet Mu is not >>>>> going to be half-assed. You may not like it, it may not speak to your >>>>> condition, but to criticize it that way makes me think you're just hearing >>>>> it, not listening to it. >>>>> >>>>> And you're under no obligation to like it or listen to it. There's too >>>>> much music and life's too short to listen to things you don't enjoy. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:41 PM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "To say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to >>>>>> his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up." >>>>>> >>>>>> Careful, silly-pants Kent, you're walking the ignorant line yourself, >>>>>> and sounding like an academic from the burbs who's just trying to relate. >>>>>> You don't know me or where I'm from. If I'm from the same musical culture >>>>>> and the same socio-economic background as most peeps who make Footwork, am >>>>>> I still ignorant and shallow? Am I allowed to have an opinion then? Good, >>>>>> because I am. And most Footwork sucks. And I don't have to put "IMO" >>>>>> because I am the one saying it, and it's obviously my opinion. I much >>>>>> prefer Bluegrass. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, hugs all around! >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 10:38 AM, kent williams < >>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Every genre defines conventions. Every genre, furthermore demands a >>>>>>> different sort of listening if you're going to understand and enjoy it. To >>>>>>> say "The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to add a snare to his >>>>>>> half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental" is to dismiss a whole musical >>>>>>> culture based on a very shallow listening experience, and no understanding >>>>>>> of the culture in which it grew up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Juke/Footwork music is very much the product of kids with cracked >>>>>>> copies of Fruity Loops; they work with the tools they have. The motivation >>>>>>> was to make music whose purpose is to accompany footwork dancing, which is >>>>>>> competetive, athletic and intense. The idea is to have the freshest, >>>>>>> trickiest rhythm, often played back on shitty boomboxes or Frankenstein >>>>>>> sound systems.. Footwork, like Jit in Detroit, is both dance and stylized >>>>>>> warfare; it sublimates the violence and frustration of life in "Chiraq." >>>>>>> It is something positive in an environment where people are confronted >>>>>>> daily with unrelenting negative things. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's a billion footwork tracks and thousands of people making it. >>>>>>> Inevitably most of it is not very good, but like any other genre, when it's >>>>>>> good it's great. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's OK not to like musical styles. I bet you're not so hot on >>>>>>> bluegrass music as well. But like my grandmother always told me about cream >>>>>>> corn, "it's better to say you don't care for it than say you hate it." >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:26 PM David Bohan <madvlad00@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kent, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why does Jared have to be ignorant to not like Footwork? It seems >>>>>>>> like Jared just thinks this kind of music does not require much effort or >>>>>>>> much of it is the same. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I listened to the compilation album "Bangs & Works Vol. 1" and have >>>>>>>> found his sentiment to be true for most of the tracks on that release, with >>>>>>>> some exceptions of course. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now Jlin's release here is much more experimental and fresh >>>>>>>> sounding than the long tracks of TV show themes spread out over lazy beats. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ignorant or silly? Either way, I can't help myself, Kent! >>>>>>>>> Honestly, Jlin's stuff isn't that bad. But for some reason it all sounds a >>>>>>>>> bit unfinished to me. But if peeps want to call it minimal, so be it! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:18 PM, kent williams < >>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Jared, stop being ignorant. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:04 AM Jared Dunne <22tape@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah yes, Footwork. The genre that sounds like some kid forgot to >>>>>>>>>>> add a snare to his half-assed Fruity Loops rap instrumental. Yay world! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:51 AM, David Bohan < >>>>>>>>>>> madvlad00@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't heard of "Footwork"... is this a new genre of music >>>>>>>>>>>> or something? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The tracks you linked to sound interesting to say the least. >>>>>>>>>>>> Find it also curious that Jlin works at a steel mill in Gary, Indiana... >>>>>>>>>>>> Not much music prides itself on coming from Indiana >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:29 AM, kent williams < >>>>>>>>>>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the >>>>>>>>>>>>> IDM list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> 22tape/jared dunne >>>>>> listen <http://22tape.com> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >> >