quoted 2 lines "How is what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what >does
>"How is what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what >does
>it work?"
if you don't understand this, you need to listen to more music. ;)
Chris, you should spend less time with your thesaurus, and more time
listening to music. ;)
(See long winded writing below)
Peace . . .
Chad
quoted 110 lines From: Christophe McKeon <c.mckeon@rcn.com>
>From: Christophe McKeon <c.mckeon@rcn.com>
>CC: idm@hyperreal.org
>Subject: Re: [idm] Detroit in the news
>Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:41:59 -0400
>
>A "catalyst" as far as I am informed. Is that which makes some kind of
>reaction/transformation possible, which at least in chemistry, would not
>have
>taken place w/o its presence. Kind of like the element which brings the
>whole
>ensemble to a more active state. A 'key' of sorts, opening up the
>possibility
>of emergent and synergistic behavior of the entire ensemble, whatever it
>may
>be. I think it is safe to say that this is also it's adopted vernacular
>meaning. I think if we want to talk about catalysts, we should perhaps be
>talking about the relationship between humans and machines after the advent
>of
>the transistor. In other words, music has been around for ever, and
>"electronic
>music" was thought up, at least in theory, far before any body actually
>built
>the machines capable of making it. The catalyst in this case is the
>technology,
>particularly the transistor, and the tremendous variety of new music,
>culture,
>and ideas which have proliferated since it's 'birth', the "reaction". It is
>obvious that people have been making all kinds of music using electronic
>instruments, as Behn wrote, "all over the world", and I think it is
>ludicrous
>to point to any one place as it's point of origin. The whole issue is
>problematic, and to reduce it's genealogy to a punctal and linear
>progression
>doesn't really do it justice. In fact even to think of the technology as
>catalyst needs to be thought about, since technology and music have existed
>for
>a very long time. I would even venture the contention that they both
>predate
>the advent of what we now like to call 'homo sapiens'. Animals are quite
>capable of artifice and engineering, and as we all know, making music as
>well
>(just open your window).
>Here I will most likely be charged with anthropomorphising the question,
>but I
>would argue, that it is more of a case of geomorphisis, i.e. we are
>animals,
>and we make music just like all the other animals. What goes through a
>little
>birds mind as it alights my window sill and is bombarded by tweeky, high
>pitched noise breaks? I can assure you that something does, even if it
>isn't
>the words "I hate that techno stuff, it's so soulless and unbirdlike".
>Back to the point; I think that when people look for points of origins,
>grounds, roots, they are more often than not motivated by some force other
>than
>trying to really understand the way whichever system they are looking at
>actually 'becomes'. And 'becoming', in music or any where else involves
>transverse and viroid cross-contamination. Do you need a "Big bang" or a
>"Genesis" to make the world intelligible? Why not have indeterminate open
>ended
>origins - just as music has not yet been put through the histrionic mill;
>no
>one would argue that there is some kind of a final state in store for it.
>The question which I think would be interesting to ask in this case: "How
>is
>what I am hearing part of something else? How and with what does it work?"
>Regards,
>Christophe
>
>
>
>
>Kurtis Behn wrote:
>
> > > I'm amused by this... just by reading a book or watching a
>documentary
> > > you can get the full history of electronic music... i must admit both
>are
> > > good resources for what has occurred in the history of electronic
>music,
> > > but detroit is NOT the catalyst for launching electronic music.
> >
> > > In fact, I'd tend to believe every section of this earth has had a
>part in
> > > launching electronic music... from the "techno pioneers" in detroit
>to
> > > the warehouse and garage djs in chicago and nyc to the d&b creators in
>the
> > > UK to john cage in champaign/urbana, IL basically every section of
>earth
> > > has had *some* part in making electronic music what it is today.
> >
> > While I tend to believe/agree with your second paragraph, I don't think
>that
> > that conflicts with the previous statement about detroit. I think
>you're
> > misunderstanding what was meant by catalyst, as in a jump start, not
> > necessarily the source of all things electronic.
> >
> > k
> >
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