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From:
Kelley Hackett
To:
'MikeD '
Cc:
'uncutvein@hotmail.com' , 'idm@hyperreal.org'
Date:
Tue, 30 May 2000 22:37:50 -0500
Subject:
RE: [idm] Detroit in the news.
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<397CA68ABF5AD111863C00805F0DDE9811ACC7@aba.iupui.edu>
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....haa haa....let me try and change my pace so that some of you may better understand me. Nearly most of you, I have discovered, are young cats, save a few. Coupled with the fact that nearly most of you are white, you only speak of documentaries.....articles, interviews, books--all of which are secondary information. How many of you can say that you went to basement parties when you were younger(or whatever type of party) and heard the DJ mixing Pocket Calculator or Numbers? Sure some of ya can, but how many can say I have experienced underground clubs where brothers dance to Hip hop and, at the drop of hat---"Jitt" to Techno...and then back again to Hip hop?.. What about George Clinton and the many bands which he influenced. Who remembers his concerts when the entire place smelled like Dank, and black lights, strobe lights and lights of all colors dimly lit the stage? This is what Techno is all about, the past cats(people).... This is what Theo Parish, Eddie "Fucking" Fowlkes, the ROOTS, Alan and some others tried to teach the crowd at the DEMF...seems that few learned this.....by playing older music...but still rocking tha Fuck out of me and all of you, they attempted to show U that they are just teachers. With their Music as the lesson and the Soul as the crux, they taught us many things...and its funny when I think about it, because this form of learning(and also Dancing) goes back in many African cultures and civilizations(Native Americans too, and I met two cool ass Indian cats from Canada).... Some Jose cat on the 313 mentioned a club called The Outcast......Thats where you will find the true Techno....but with fear, coupled with white anxiety....you'll never see it! and my message will seem and sound as askew as all the other messages I have written. Frisco(San Franscico)---it has its good artists, but these artists havent went thru the same pains as Detroit artists(the tacit agreement by many people to overlook the FACT that African Americans catch HELL in AMerica is truly beyond me). My apologies though, for my way of communication is not the way to teach people. Me, angry isnt the word. Culturally plundering many of our art forms--such as Blues, Reggae, Jazz, etc.....the Machine--if you will--has ultimately controlled the distribution of music and thereby has adequately marketed it to the younger white population and not the younger African American population. It has grown exponentially as a result. But there remains a few proud Warriors who battle the giant, never selling themselves to the Machine....never selling out for the money, fame, glory, status and or recognition, who I had the pleasure of meeting. Galliant ass muthfuck'n NIGHTS many of you would relate to them as. They know the deal.....and some of U others know but it, but its only a few.......Now I hope all you treat this post as you treated all my others ones, dont respond............Just read it.. p.s. I speak of Techno, not of what YOU call "electronic music" 2-much said O.A.R!-Kore -----Original Message----- From: MikeD To: Twine sound Cc: khackett@aba.iupui.edu; Magicnerd8@aol.com; idm@hyperreal.org Sent: 5/30/00 5:07 PM Subject: RE: [idm] Detroit in the news. I'm amused by this... just by reading a book or watching a documentary you can get the full history of electronic music... i must admit both are good resources for what has occurred in the history of electronic music, but detroit is NOT the catalyst for launching electronic music. In fact, I'd tend to believe every section of this earth has had a part in launching electronic music... from the "techno pioneers" in detroit to the warehouse and garage djs in chicago and nyc to the d&b creators in the UK to john cage in champaign/urbana, IL basically every section of earth has had *some* part in making electronic music what it is today. A good article, which complements Modulations and "Generation Ecstacy" is "Think" by Ed Luna located at http://www.ele-mental.org/ele_ment/think/original/think.html Basically it says techno music started when we as humans started interacting with our environments. -m
quoted 2 lines The festival was great. And Detroit was the Catalyst for launching> The festival was great. And Detroit was the Catalyst for launching > electronic music. Read "Generation Extacy, or watch modulations." It
quoted 21 lines covers the history.> covers the history. > > --Chad > > >From: Kelley Hackett <khackett@aba.iupui.edu> > >To: Magicnerd8@aol.com > >CC: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: RE: [idm] Detroit in the news. > >Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 16:08:17 -0500 > > > >I assume sarcastic.......? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Magicnerd8@aol.com [mailto:Magicnerd8@aol.com] > >Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 6:45 PM > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: Re: [idm] Detroit in the news. > > > > > ><<shoot, earlier > >in the story the writer states that Detroit is where "electronic
music was
quoted 1 line born." i can understand getting really excited about the DEMF, but> >born." i can understand getting really excited about the DEMF, but
let's
quoted 5 lines not get carried away.> >not get carried away. > > > > -jeff>> > > > >yah no shit!!! niggaz, we all know autechre and aphex invented
electronic
quoted 15 lines moozikk, who wants some bootlegs?!??> >moozikk, who wants some bootlegs?!?? > > > >-tha true IDMahhhh > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >
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