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From:
Aleks tresorg
To:
Clint Anderson
Cc:
Charles Byers-Brown , Esa Ruoho , CRAIG SIMPSON , Richard James , Laurent Knauth , Eric Fairbanks , kent williams , idm list
Date:
Fri, 27 Mar 2015 12:26:33 +0100
Subject:
Re: New Squarepusher track
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imho i think that its a nice mix of bleep with 4 step contemporary jazz? great drumming, not my choice of other sounds though. his palette has never been my cup of tea.... On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:15 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 197 lines yes i also like the melody to the cure's "it's friday im in love"> yes i also like the melody to the cure's "it's friday im in love" > very catchy > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GpBiTjmIpQ > squarepusher/zmachiines - dissolver > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Charles Byers-Brown < > c.byersbrown@gmail.com> wrote: > >> You all secretly like it ;) >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'll say this though, I listened to the track three times in the last >>> week or so, and today, for no reason whatsoever, the melody got stuck in my >>> hed. >>> i didn't like it, but what can i do. >>> >>> On 26 March 2015 at 23:55, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yer havin a laugh mate. Its absolute muck. But because he's >>>> Squarepusher he can get away with it. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:33:13 -0400 >>>> Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >>>> From: madvlad00@gmail.com >>>> To: laurent.knauth@gmail.com >>>> CC: clinta@gmail.com; eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com; >>>> chaircrusher@gmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> >>>> What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace. >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth < >>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto >>>> cassette and resampled the track this way. >>>> >>>> Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their >>>> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks >>>> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could >>>> free up 3 channels >>>> </mod-nerd> >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks < >>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so >>>> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect. >>>> >>>> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge >>>> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3 >>>> >>>> This was from this album >>>> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd >>>> figure out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much >>>> silence, and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where >>>> the beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns >>>> and sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and >>>> paste-mix other loops into the master mix. >>>> >>>> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot >>>> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the >>>> other options of the time, which were trackers. >>>> >>>> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks < >>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of >>>> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well >>>> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I >>>> cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and >>>> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the >>>> next measure. >>>> >>>> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time >>>> I was done. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks < >>>> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an >>>> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious >>>> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that >>>> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats. >>>> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM >>>> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a >>>> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with. >>>> >>>> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some >>>> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic >>>> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I >>>> enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects >>>> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes >>>> from playing bass through it. >>>> >>>> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is >>>> manically shiny in a similar way. >>>> >>>> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different. >>>> >>>> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved >>>> loading the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so >>>> every bar was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted >>>> to about 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing. >>>> >>>> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if people >>>> use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing with >>>> it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been >>>> sampled from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a >>>> tragedy. >>>> >>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 >>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>>> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >>>> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 >>>> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>>> To: 313@hyperreal.org >>>> Subject: Re: Jlin album out. >>>> >>>> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and >>>> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. >>>> >>>> kent williams wrote: >>>> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>>> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>>> > >>>> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> --- >>> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >>> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >>> >> >> >