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Charles Byers-Brown
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Esa Ruoho
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CRAIG SIMPSON , , Laurent Knauth , Clint Anderson , Eric Fairbanks , kent williams , idm list
Date:
Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:58:03 +0000
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Re: New Squarepusher track
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You all secretly like it ;) On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 175 lines I'll say this though, I listened to the track three times in the last week> I'll say this though, I listened to the track three times in the last week > or so, and today, for no reason whatsoever, the melody got stuck in my hed. > i didn't like it, but what can i do. > > On 26 March 2015 at 23:55, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Yer havin a laugh mate. Its absolute muck. But because he's Squarepusher >> he can get away with it. >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 11:33:13 -0400 >> Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >> From: madvlad00@gmail.com >> To: laurent.knauth@gmail.com >> CC: clinta@gmail.com; eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com; chaircrusher@gmail.com; >> idm@hyperreal.org >> >> >> What's wrong with you all? This track is proper ace. >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >> Back in the Protracker days, i once recorded the Amiga channels onto >> cassette and resampled the track this way. >> >> Quite blurry, RAM-hog (4 bars) and slightly unsync'ed. >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> heh in the .mod days ppl would use mod2wav to make patterns from their >> .mod files into wav files, the idea being that since you only had 4 tracks >> if you could write a 4 track beat and mix it down to 1 wav file you could >> free up 3 channels >> </mod-nerd> >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Eric Fairbanks < >> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Oh man, those stutter-rolls. That's friggin' impressive. They sound so >> smooth, and the volume envelopes are perfect. >> >> Must've taken a hellovalot of time. :P >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 6:05 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This track was made entirely in Sound Forge >> http://www.cornwarning.com/chaircrusher/SoFarSoSo/02%20Morton%27s%20Shadow.mp3 >> >> This was from this album >> http://music.cornwarning.com/2009/01/31/so-far-so-so-retrospective-1995-2005/ >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:02 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Before Acid Pro, I did a whole bunch of tracks in Sound Forge. I'd figure >> out the number of samples in a 4-beat measures, create that much silence, >> and turn on the selection grid in Sound Forge so I could see where the >> beats were, and paste/mix samples in. Once I had some basic patterns and >> sounds, I'd make copies and fuck them up, and string them out and paste-mix >> other loops into the master mix. >> >> I'm really comfortable working directly with waveforms. It's a lot >> easier these days with other tools, but I liked that method better than the >> other options of the time, which were trackers. >> >> Though I did do trackers to generate loops that I'd arrange in Acid. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:16 PM Eric Fairbanks < >> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Ah man, Acid Pro. That's exactly what I was picturing. I've heard of >> musicians who work like that, but it sounds like a nightmare. Might as well >> compose music in a video editor at that point IMO. >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:09 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I did it kind of as a dare for myself. I was working in Acid Pro, and I >> cut the break into chunks, and then looped a bar or two bars, and >> copy/paste bits into the loop until it feels full. Then move on to the >> next measure. >> >> It wasn't hard, but it made me hate those particular sounds by the time I >> was done. >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 3:44 PM Eric Fairbanks < >> eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Kent, that's nuts. I can't imagine working with sampled breaks in an >> audio editor. (well, I suppose I can, but it sounds like a serious >> headache) My recent jam has been writing LUA scripts that >> generate/transform patterns in Renoise that re-arrange cut up breakbeats. >> Editing and manipulating breaks and sequences in a tracker at 180+ BPM >> 8/16LPB is work enough. Cutting up breaks in an audio editor represents a >> level of long-term focus and dedication that I'm unfamiliar with. >> >> Totally hypothetical, but if Jenkinson handed me a spec for some >> beatmangling software, I'd happily implement it in return for some spastic >> Squarepusher-brand breakcore. >.> >> >> On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 4:24 PM kent williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I'd call it piss-weak. Not sure if I like it yet, but I >> enjoy the melodic content. It sounds like he's using the Eventide effects >> rack as a synthesizer again -- that buzzy foreground sound, which comes >> from playing bass through it. >> >> Closest contemporary comparison is the PC Music stuff, which is manically >> shiny in a similar way. >> >> You can't fault him for trying to do something that sounds different. >> >> As regards the Amen break, I did a track years ago that involved loading >> the Amen break as a sample, and then cutting and arranging it so every bar >> was different, across 5 minutes. As you can imagine this amounted to about >> 8 hours of painstaking zoomed-in editing. >> >> Ever since doing that, I'm allergic to the Amen. I don't mind if people >> use it in their tracks, but if I load it a sampler and start messing with >> it, I start feeling sad and wishing it would go away. >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:21 AM CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been sampled >> from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a tragedy. >> >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 >> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. >> >> >> >> >> --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >> Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 >> From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >> To: 313@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: Jlin album out. >> >> I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and >> I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. >> >> kent williams wrote: >> > I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >> > list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >> > >> > http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >> >> >> >> > > > -- > > --- > http://twitter.com/esaruoho > http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >