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From:
Esa Ruoho
To:
Clint Anderson
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CRAIG SIMPSON , Eric Fairbanks , Dan S , idm list
Date:
Tue, 24 Mar 2015 20:34:29 +0200
Subject:
Re: New Squarepusher track
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqV5FO46o4c you know it's gonna be corn starch after about 10 seconds in to the video. and then it's corn starch. .. i guess what's next for tom jenkinson is to go and do this: http://nigelstanford.com/Cymatics/ except hopefully with better music. but will it rank amongst his most influential and most inspired work? it's hard to conceive that squarepusher wouldn't do a better job of it than nigel stanford. euyckh On 24 March 2015 at 20:26, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:
quoted 144 lines i dunno i havent MINDED most of his stuff since do you know, ultravisitor> i dunno i havent MINDED most of his stuff since do you know, ultravisitor > in particular is great but then hello everything, souvenir, modern bass, > etc, im not going to call crap but they just ... whatever chaotic naughty > arrogant narcissistic spark was in the first few albums and EPs just seemed > to not be there, i think that esa is onto something there > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 1:24 PM, Esa Ruoho <esaruoho@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just scrollin' back, 2012 Ufabulum 2010 Shobaleader one, 2008 Just A >> Souvenir 2006 Hello Everything 2004 Ultravisitor 2002 Do You Know >> Squarepusher.. should someone force him to wait 3-4 years between albums or >> wot >> >> >> On 24 March 2015 at 17:47, CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I completely agree, undercooked is a great word for how I feel about >>> his output at the moment. It seems very basic(on the surface,) and somewhat >>> timid. Ufabulum live is so much better because he adds more complexity to >>> the tracks. The album on its own doesn't match up and I'd imagine that's >>> how it will be with damogen furies. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: eric.p.fairbanks@gmail.com >>> Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 15:12:12 +0000 >>> Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >>> To: danstowell+idm@gmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>> >>> >>> For whatever reason, Jenkinson seems to be moving his percussive >>> elements out of the spotlight in his recordings. I've noticed fewer layers >>> where his drums are concerned. They've been noticeably cleaner, the samples >>> less varied, and the glitch FX less present. >>> >>> When I first heard Ufabulum, I was a bit disappointed. The compositions >>> sounded almost like what I wanted/expected, but there was something missing. >>> >>> Then I saw Squarepusher perform that album live, and everything came >>> together. It was the perfect cavalcade of glitched-out, blissful craziness >>> that I expected. What was different? What did he add to the equation that >>> was missing on the album itself? >>> >>> Turns out, it was Jenkinson, sweeping filters, retriggering samples, >>> crushing bits, and just generally fucking shit up. (in a good way) What is >>> missing, I think, from his recent tracks, is this element of live-ness. To >>> quote Wikipedia quoting him discussing Ufabulum: >>> >>> *"It's music which is generated purely from programming...there's >>> nothing in it which is live, really at all."* >>> >>> Perhaps the Daft-Punk-looking welding helmet was an omen. In the same >>> way that I find their music most palatable on albums like "Alive," perhaps >>> Jenkinson's recent work is designed to be performed. Until there's Tom >>> smashing away on his FSU programs, disassembling and reassembling the music >>> according to his whims, it's slightly undercooked. >>> >>> This weird, floppy, slightly moist IDM pizza is okay; certainly >>> enjoyable, but I miss the old, crispy, thin crust version. >>> >>> Or maybe drill 'n' bass is just dead. Who knows? >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:45 AM Dan S <danstowell+idm@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> lovely bit of europop imho >>> >>> 2015-03-24 13:35 GMT+00:00 CRAIG SIMPSON <craignorms@hotmail.com>: >>> > you honestly think thats up to his standards? he's making music that >>> > compliments his pyrotechnic liveshows in the same way movies have >>> explosions >>> > that compliment the 3d. Its fine in that context but for me he has >>> been on a >>> > rapid decline since ultravisior. >>> > >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: alucas@gmail.com >>> > Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2015 09:21:08 -0400 >>> > Subject: Re: New Squarepusher track >>> > To: c.byersbrown@gmail.com >>> > CC: craignorms@hotmail.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>> > >>> > >>> > I'm guessing he means this one: >>> > >>> > https://soundcloud.com/warp-records/squarepusher-stor-eiglass >>> > >>> > I quite like it. >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 9:19 AM, Charles Byers-Brown >>> > <c.byersbrown@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > >>> > Link? >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 12:21 PM, CRAIG SIMPSON < >>> craignorms@hotmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > This is pis* weak. Hes making music that sounds like its all been >>> sampled >>> > from an arcade or funfair. Hes given up on the amen break. It's a >>> tragedy. >>> > >>> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 22:06:04 -0700 >>> > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>> > To: idm@hyperreal.org >>> > Subject: Fwd: Re: Jlin album out. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > --Forwarded Message Attachment-- >>> > Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 21:58:47 -0700 >>> > From: gwrenchxx@sbcglobal.net >>> > To: 313@hyperreal.org >>> > Subject: Re: Jlin album out. >>> > >>> > I've had to review a 12" or two for the radio station where I DJ, and >>> > I've never heard anything that appealed to me in the least. >>> > >>> > kent williams wrote: >>> >> I'm surprised footwork/juke hasn't been a bigger thing on the IDM >>> >> list. This new record on Planet Mu is revelatory. >>> >> >>> >> http://www.planet.mu/discography/ZIQ356 >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> --- >> http://twitter.com/esaruoho >> http://lackluster.bandcamp.com >> > >
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