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From:
Nate Harrison [Digital Magician Inc]
To:
GamePrg.
Cc:
IDM
Date:
Sat, 9 Aug 1997 17:52:53 +0000 ()
Subject:
Re: (idm) lunatic review (was lunatic for muziq)
Msg-Id:
<Pine.BSF.3.95.970809172006.16281A-100000@www.webelite.com>
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<yam7160.377.129608000@clark.net>
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GamePrg wrote: bah.. I know of many people who speak that way who don't know what the fuck Human Beat Box is.. so if it's a crime that I don't know it, oh well.. I write: This is my point exactly. The so called fans/practicioners of contemporary hip hop don't know the history. It's not a crime on your part, I was just trying to say that by your original post (it seemed to me) that hip hop as we know it today is in dire need of a facelift, whether you're a fan or not. I pointed out Scratchpiklz as just one of several people who I think are bringing the innovation back to hip hop, which trickles into IDM. WHere do you thinnk Autechre or the Skam guys got their dope beats from? GamePrg wrote:The Fat Boys were around when I was about 6-7 years old or so and I was never interested in rap/hiphop at that time.. I'm still not interested in it. Hey that's cool too- again I wasn't trying to dis you by not knowing where the sample came from. The Fat Boys were a gimmick-rating very high on the cheese scale, but you know what? They were doing crazy weird shit which was wacky, off the wall, and IMHO innovative. I'm sure alot of people on this list grew up trying to 'beatbox'. I'll admit it, I saw the Fat Boys in concert when I was 13. Dope as hell. UTFO was with them; you want a real Ninja? Try Mixmaster Ice from UTFO. Anyone remember this guy? GamePrg wrote: jees, you try to write a review about something and then all someone can do is bitch about some stupid ass sample. I write: I'm sorry if you took my post as 'bitching', but I did not. I didn't say 'Hey Gameprg sucks cuz he doesn't know his samples'. I merely wanted to point out that it was evident (at least to me) by your email that current hip hop culture has done a good job of making vibeless cookiecutter/pseudo hardcore music and attitude popular, at the expense of innovation and freeform, which are the fundumentals (at least they used to be) of Hip Hop. Whether you buy into that gangsta shit or not (I assume from your email you don't) I don't care and is not the point. So much for my attempt at being discreet;) Hey at least this was not another STUPID post about CD/Vinyl;) peace Nate Nate Harrison Digital Magician Inc. www.digimagician.com nate@digimagician.com 313.994.7316