Re: (idm) Necessary IDM albums /Thoughts on Ischemic folks
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quoted 10 lines autechre's been copied so relentlessly they're barely interesting> autechre's been copied so relentlessly they're barely interesting
> anymore (especially since they've taken that 'chiastic' slide down the
> path of 'incomprehensibility as communication'). the only warp person
> who's yet to be copied properly is aphex twin circa 'rdj album' (bogdan
> hasn't even come close) but he seems to have decided to take a long
> break (understandably) & everyone has inexplicably lost interest in
> drill n bass (perhaps after it was deemed too playful by members of this
> list? i hear idm-l has _some_ influence on the music that gets released
> nowadays, you know... it's the easiest way to know your target
> market... & to reduce it to a bunch of tonedeaf collectors.)
I'm sick of people who constantly dismiss anything with glitchy beats as an
Autechre ripoff. Of course, there is a huge glut of music put together with
minimal effort and a little inspiration. The Schematic label is particulary
suspect in this aspect. Autechre are the original innovators though, and
they always remain fresh and "right" for me. Listening to Ischemic Strokes
and then Chiastic Slide, Ischemic seems so thin. Its missing something that
Autechre always has.
quoted 7 lines what else is there? oh, there's plenty of minimal techno, but very few> what else is there? oh, there's plenty of minimal techno, but very few
> gems. & of course, for most of it, 'minimal' is to be understood as
> 'make the track as unchallenging as possible' rather than the more
> accurate 'exploit the possibilities with a minimum of means'. if
> there's a minimal album i could live without, i've yet to hear of it:
> though, there are interesting artists to look for (but don't ask me who
> as this genre is not really my bag most of the time).
Minimal for me always meant minimal effort. Come on, its difficult to listen
to. Don't you feel cool becuase you like it?
quoted 6 lines what's left? very little. the few interesting producers usually have> what's left? very little. the few interesting producers usually have
> little way of promoting their music, little encouragement, & rarely end
> up producing truly VITAL albums. for most of these guys, a slightly
> personalized rehash of what's there already is the best they can come up
> with. very little sense of purpose or whatever, but that's partly
> because of the scene they come from.
Too true. When I look at all the stuff I bought in '99, the stuff that
really stands out as worth my money is a very select crop of IDM stuff and a
lot of non-IDM stuff. Granted, I won't buy pop music, but there is music
beyond IDM, and a lot of it is produced with more depth, musical talent
(don't get me started on the atonality and boringness of a large amount of
the IDM out there) and emotion than any of the dreck discussed on this list.
To reiterate, IDM is fun and enjoyable, and is certainly mind opening. Just
don't get caught in the "this is difficult to listen to, must be good" trap.
Its difficult to sort through the noise. There is a lot of junk out there.
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