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1994-05-20 12:07CiMIt seems to me that to say "this is IDM/this isn't so it shouldn't be on the list" is pret

From:: CiM <u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk>
To:: IDM <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Fri, 20 May 1994 13:07:57 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: What should appear on IDM...

It seems to me that to say "this is IDM/this isn't so it shouldn't be on the list" is pretty stupid. This is mainly because there are a great deal of artists who make different types of music. Say an artist makes IDM material and also makes techno/trance/ambient/Peruvian nose flute music; it makes sense to discuss their other material too, as it has relevance to their IDM stuff. Artists like Oliver Leib, Rich Hawtin and, yes, Richard James make straight dance material as well as ambient, IDM stuff, and lots of other stuff inbetween. Anyway, mailing lists like UK-Dance aren't just solely concerned with dance music in the UK. If they were, only one or two people would read them. Posts that are blatantly _not_ what the mailing list is about should (obviously) be discouraged but otherwise they might have relevance to IDM. All IMO of course. __ Simon Walley | 1E 76 9A 0D 78 3A 3B 1C | /\ \ <u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk> | A1 60 73 AE 8B 0E E0 B6 | /--\_\

1994-05-20 13:01Dave WalkerI debated awhile about posting this, but I have to get it off my chest. In several convers

From:: Dave Walker <marmoset@mail.msen.com>
To:: Intelligent Dance Music List <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Fri, 20 May 1994 09:01:00 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: What should appear on IDM...
Reply to:: What should appear on IDM...

I debated awhile about posting this, but I have to get it off my chest. In several conversations about this list with other netters who are now (former) subscribers to this list, many commented that they were turned off by what they perceived as a snobby vibe. Sorry to say it, but all too many times I've seen novice posters scared off from here with a curt "sorry, discussion of that stuff doesn't belong here." We all know that calling one batch of stuff "intelligent dance music" doesn't somehow mean that anything else that isn't discussed here is automatically "unintelligent", but that's sure how it looks to the outside world. The problem is that the net currently lacks a decent general forum for the discussion of creative dance music. Alt.rave is overrun by testosterone-fueled jokers with mammoth sigs, and the regional rave lists are, by their nature, not the ideal forum for delving deeply into recent releases. I'm not sure that there's anything we can do about this (or if we should even try), but this little flame-up here is a symptom of the larger disease. | Dave Walker, Detroit Art Services (DAS) -- marmoset@msen.com | | | | Without chemicals, life itself would be impossible. |

1994-05-22 02:12Brian BehlendorfOn May 20, 9:01am, you proclaimed: } The problem is that the net currently lacks a decent

From:: Brian Behlendorf <bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu>
To:: Dave Walker <marmoset@garnet.msen.com>, Intelligent Dance Music List <idm@techno.Stanford.EDU>
Date:: Sat, 21 May 1994 19:12:47 -0700
Subject:: Re: What should appear on IDM...

On May 20, 9:01am, you proclaimed: } The problem is that the net currently lacks a decent general forum for } the discussion of creative dance music. Alt.rave is overrun by } testosterone-fueled jokers with mammoth sigs, and the regional rave lists } are, by their nature, not the ideal forum for delving deeply into recent } releases. I'm not sure that there's anything we can do about this (or if } we should even try), but this little flame-up here is a symptom of } the larger disease. The "disease" is that no one's going to be satisfied perfectly by any mailing list or forum, at least not until the state of artifical intelligence is high enough that reliably strong smart agents will roam the net plucking out articles and posts it knows you will like and rejecting those it knows you won't. Until that time (and probably even when people think that time has come) I'll be happy enough to sit in on nearly-perfect well-focused forums, like IDM, happily deleting those posts I don't find interesting and paying attention to the 5 or 10 a day I do find interesting. Brian

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