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Well, the kid who said he had a precopy of the new Vapourspace CD and then went on to say it was all one track is...CORRECT! 12 songs mixed into one track--just like the CD5. The CD is 60minutes long. If you got your free FFRR sampler, don't bother with the full length. I, personally, am underwhelmed. The track 'Themes from Vapourspace'--on the FFRR sampler--is about the best track on the CD. -- Brian sex = differentiation = death bhostetl@indiana.edu bhostetl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

quoted 6 lines Well, the kid who said he had a precopy of the new Vapourspace CD and

>Well, the kid who said he had a precopy of the new Vapourspace CD and >then went on to say it was all one track is...CORRECT! 12 songs mixed >into one track--just like the CD5. The CD is 60minutes long. If you >got your free FFRR sampler, don't bother with the full length. I, >personally, am underwhelmed. The track 'Themes from Vapourspace'--on >the FFRR sampler--is about the best track on the CD.

I just got my sampler yesterday - and by the way where did they get my name and address? - and I thought it was excellent but I'll have to say that the One Dove tracks are my favourites on the disc. I was quite pleased to see Gravitational Arch of 10 seeing as how I haven't even bothered to get a copy yet, but I was very disappointed by it. Does anyone else who got the sampler know if the mix on the cd is a bowdlerized/bastardized/mutilated/castrated version or what? ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:)

At 4:58 PM 2/4/94 -0500, Tai Nguyen wrote:

quoted 7 lines I just got my sampler yesterday - and by the way where did they get my name

>I just got my sampler yesterday - and by the way where did they get my name >and address? - and I thought it was excellent but I'll have to say that the >One Dove tracks are my favourites on the disc. I was quite pleased to see >Gravitational Arch of 10 seeing as how I haven't even bothered to get a >copy yet, but I was very disappointed by it. Does anyone else who got the >sampler know if the mix on the cd is a >bowdlerized/bastardized/mutilated/castrated version or what?

I have been trying ffrr1@aol.com and the mail bounces. What is the address that you sent it to? Thanks Chris Fraser &:^) ! ub141@freenet.victoria.bc.ca ! This space for rent cfraser@island.amtsgi.bc.ca !

quoted 2 lines I have been trying ffrr1@aol.com and the mail bounces. What is the

>I have been trying ffrr1@aol.com and the mail bounces. What is the >address that you sent it to?

I didn't send anything anywhere. I just got this sampler in the mail with no notice, out of the blue, and I'm very curious as to how the got my name, and my address no less. I can imagine they might have gotten my name from this mailing list or another maybe but I've never written to those <generic group> fan clubs or any such shit so who knows? Not that I'm complaining... ___ (:)====/__/\=(:)(:)============================(:)====================(:) |\| _\_ \ \|\||=| Tai Nguyen |\| email address: |=| |=| /__/\_\ \=||\| Cornell University |=| thn1@cornell.edu |\| |\| / /\ __/\|(:)============================(:)====================(:) |=|/ / /\ \ |=||=| "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, |=| |\/__/ \_\/ |\||\| and statistics." |\| |=\__\/\ \ |=||=| - Mark Twain |=| (:)==\__\/===(:)(:)===================================================(:)

Is it me, or does Electronic Sight (track 3) on the new Electronic Eye release sound exactly like Bill Nelson? Right down to the sampled voices drifting in and out. If you dig this, I'd suggest getting Bill's "Chamber of Dreams" or any of his instrumental works, really. The bassline is a dead ringer, as is the drippy synth line. Someone tell me I'm not crazy! Dave

Dave Steinhart <angst@psych.colorado.edu> writes:

quoted 7 lines Is it me, or does Electronic Sight (track 3) on the new Electronic Eye

> Is it me, or does Electronic Sight (track 3) on the new Electronic Eye > release sound exactly like Bill Nelson? Right down to the sampled voices > drifting in and out. If you dig this, I'd suggest getting Bill's "Chamber > of Dreams" or any of his instrumental works, really. > > The bassline is a dead ringer, as is the drippy synth line. Someone tell > me I'm not crazy!

i haven't heard the new EE stuff, but imho bill nelson is far too ignored by ambient listeners. In fact, i don't have the discs in front of me to be specific, but i have heard some of his work from the eighties which i could swear have been ripped off by some modern musicians. also, has anyone noticed how much "#19" by Aphex Twin (found on Excursions in Ambience 3 and the UK vinyl version of SAW II) sounds alot like the fourth or fifth track on Eno's "Apollo" disc? unfortunately i don't have the apollo disc here either (i'm on vacation :) but i think if you are familiar with the tracks you'll see what i mean. Funny because of the kinds of things that it seems Eno and RDJ say about each other. Or maybe i'm just hearing things from another plane again...... - Dan transmission 23 - FTZ - edrone - clonor the other - morpheus ii The 8-Bit Collective/8-Bit Records * US/Finland mail: eightbit@vlad.bowker.com - rkn@phoenix.oulu.fi WorldWideWeb: http://ftp.luth.se/pub/misc2/kosmic/www/8bit.html KLF/FreeMusicFoundation: http://ftp.luth.se/pub/misc2/kosmic/www/

I just got Vapourspace's CD and wanted to know what you all thought. I find it a bit too beat-driven, but interesting stuff. I wish they hadn't put all the songs on one track.....that's annoying. Sean Smith ssmith@unf6.cis.unf.edu "There is a fine line between genius and insanity...and I am that line..." -Fred White "I love you. I must be crazy. This is crazy. I love crazy. This is good." -Joanne Zysk

Before we begin....could you please send me the answer to this in private mail? Who is fred white? Should i know this guy? Anyway...cool quote..... VAPOURSPACE... I liked it...I like the chaos...but it is also relaxed at times...the beats are balanced with segways that are not at all beat driven... wait...we are talking about "themes" right...theres not a new one is there...geez i hope not cause then everyone will make fun of me again... but i dont guess there needs to be a reason for that... anyway.... I, too, hated the fact that the disc was one solid track...for one thing it makes it a real pain in the butt to play on the air...but then i started getting the point from a musical standpoint... the point is that it is one piece...perhaps the one piece is divided into individual tracks...but it is meant as is most music...to stand as one work... i looked at it like i look at art... it is rare to say that this painting would be better if it were divided into 12 segments instead of being all together like this...i saw what he was trying to say as far as art was concerned... so we are forced to recognize it as an entire composition...there is no skipping straight to that one song we like best...we must accept the entire work as one work... i think its cool... then again it may be just that my cd played has about had it and it wont skip anywhere... So the progression was intact from the gravitational arc single...with all the tracks running into each other...and the full length did the same... now what baffles me is why the latest single is separated mixes instead of a continuous mix... did anyone ever find anything oput about any european releases of 'vista humana'? theres my opinion... later, Jasonosaj. This has been a message from : Jason A. Hutto (Brother Alphabet) ---------------------------------------------------------------- jah10@ra.msstate.edu | http://www2.msstate.edu/~jah10

Well, here is my response..... Sean Smith ssmith@unf6.cis.unf.edu "It's not fluff Dana, Fred is just an ass." -Brian Fullford "A few may get through the gate in time." -William Burroughs "The belief or unconcious convinction that all propositions are of the subject-predicate form - in other words, that every fact consists of some thing having some quality - has rendered most philosophers incapable of giving any account of the world of science and daily life." -Bertrand Russell

quoted 1 line Who is fred white? Should i know this guy? Anyway...cool quote.....

> Who is fred white? Should i know this guy? Anyway...cool quote.....

Fred is my best friend (note the new above quote). He's a "hole-puncher" which is his word for irrational skeptic. Anyway, I don't care who knows, since he won't read this list...he hates my taste in music.

quoted 3 lines it is rare to say that this painting would be better if it were divided

> it is rare to say that this painting would be better if it were divided > into 12 segments instead of being all together like this...i saw what he > was trying to say as far as art was concerned...

But, what if we, as scholars possibly, wanted to look at the painting in segments? I just feel, while the music SHOULD be played in that order, it makes extracting a single nearly impossible. Besides, I don't often know where one song begins and the other ends. Individual track numbers would make it easier, AND I would still listen to it in it's proper order. Prince did it on Lovesexy and I haven't bought one of his albums since. SMILE!

I found a Vapourspace CD called the Gravitational Arch of 10 in a local shop (used). What is this like? Is it worth getting? I thought I'd consult the Idm knowledge base for advice. Thanks James --- JCJohnst@ucs.indiana.edu PS respond privately unless you feel the info will benefit the list

On Mon, 23 Jan 1995, Eku Kulminator Urtyp Hell 28 wrote:

quoted 3 lines I found a Vapourspace CD called the Gravitational Arch of 10 in a local shop

> I found a Vapourspace CD called the Gravitational Arch of 10 in a local shop > (used). What is this like? Is it worth getting? I thought I'd consult the > Idm knowledge base for advice. Thanks

This is from Mark Gage from Plus 8 records also known as Cusp. This is a really good single. It was an early hit as IDM was first catching on. Despite what the labeling says, it has two tracks, the first track is a continual mix of the first four or five remixes (about thirty minutes or so). Then the second track is a clean cut version lasting about 6 or 7 minutes. I'm doing this from memory so don't quote me for exact length. I wouldn't pay more than five bucks for it, it is a single. Larry ======================================================================== = Larry Leitner leitner@cs.odu.edu A-Juno-2, TR-505, XD-5 = = WODU AM64 - Techno, Trance, and Ambient -~\_- = ========================================================================