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"Dance music gives a bad name to IDM, electronica, whatever you want to call it. " ------------------ There are those who argue that you would have no IDM without it - and rightly so, in my opinion. Even if you envision IDM as a kind of anti-dance music (and that would have to be a very narrow channel of it anyway), the reliance on "dance" for such a definition is clear. ----------------------------- "I respect disco and house for its gay history but my god, that died so long ago, but in many ways so did IDM." ----------------------- What do you do with microhouse, clickhouse, the Perlon, Playhouse and often the Kompakt label - which, in many minds, are far from dead and have certainly incorporated house into their mix? Or, say, The Three Chairs, Moodymann, Theo Parrish, Jackmate (aka Soulphiction/Michael Baumann), etc.? What do you mean by "dead"? If dead, how do you account for acts like Metro Area? The rumors of Dance Music's death have been greatly exaggerated and unless you want to consider Musique Concret and the various experimentalists (Stockhausen, Cage, Ray Scott, etc.) as IDM, it has probably been around longer. Actually, it all depends on where you stand - what you consider "dance", what you even consider "music" as well as what you consider "intelligent". I would be loathe to give a eulogy for any genre so quickly, though. You might find your own threnody in that genre . jeff

sure does! especially all the crap House and Trance music! Digiweed, Oakenfold....don't get me started. ----- Original Message ----- From: <therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net> To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:46 AM Subject: [idm] idm as idm yada yada...

quoted 5 lines "Dance music gives a bad name to IDM, electronica,

> "Dance music gives a bad name to IDM, electronica, > whatever you want to call it. " > ------------------ > > There are those who argue that you would have no IDM without it - and

rightly so, in my opinion. Even if you envision IDM as a kind of anti-dance music (and that would have to be a very narrow channel of it anyway), the reliance on "dance" for such a definition is clear.

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> ----------------------------- > "I respect disco and house for its > gay history but my god, that died so long ago, but in many ways so did

IDM."

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> ----------------------- > What do you do with microhouse, clickhouse, the Perlon, Playhouse and

often the Kompakt label - which, in many minds, are far from dead and have certainly incorporated house into their mix? Or, say, The Three Chairs, Moodymann, Theo Parrish, Jackmate (aka Soulphiction/Michael Baumann), etc.? What do you mean by "dead"? If dead, how do you account for acts like Metro Area?

quoted 1 line The rumors of Dance Music's death have been greatly exaggerated and unless

> The rumors of Dance Music's death have been greatly exaggerated and unless

you want to consider Musique Concret and the various experimentalists (Stockhausen, Cage, Ray Scott, etc.) as IDM, it has probably been around longer. Actually, it all depends on where you stand - what you consider "dance", what you even consider "music" as well as what you consider "intelligent". I would be loathe to give a eulogy for any genre so quickly, though. You might find your own threnody in that genre .

quoted 2 lines jeff

> > jeff

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I was replying to those comments - they aren't mine. There's some awfully good house as well as some awfully bad house. I've heard the same thing said about trance, but my gates aren't quite that open unless you go back 10-12 years before trance became the monster it is (imo of course) today. -------------- Original message --------------

quoted 2 lines sure does! especially all the crap House and Trance music! Digiweed,

> sure does! especially all the crap House and Trance music! Digiweed, > Oakenfold....don't get me started.