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just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard.

I agree - this is a very nice pair of songs. Way more involved and interesting than analord 1 & 2 (which sound like really good Bochum Welt tracks) on 2/2/05 9:55 AM, ed c at echurch86@yahoo.com wrote:

quoted 3 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come

> just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come > to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is > better than the richard d. james album.

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yeah, this one in particular is Teh Phatness ed c wrote:

quoted 8 lines just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but

>just found these files. i have not been impressed with most Aphex since come to daddy but this stuff is great. i never thought i would say this but this is better than the richard d. james album. > > >--------------------------------- >Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > >

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i wouldn't talk much... i just have to say i'm completely overwhelmed by the 3 analords that came out so far... they represent absolutely everything i love in electronic music. i'm surprised nobody mentioned 'ammnesia' so far, especaially because the track title indicates to that... massive respect to afx peace miro --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yeah, i dunno how that guy does it. Everytime he releases something, it just sounds like the future. I dont even think of him as "IDM", just seems so petty. Ya Know? R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

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it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: No, but IDM are Devo. On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote:

quoted 2 lines So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot.

> So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. >

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does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it better than "IDM". On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:09:11 -0800 (PST), ed c <echurch86@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 20 lines it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder eithe

> it matters what you define as IDM. I think IDM is electronic music that tries harder either musically or just with sound. Devo might have not been that great back in the 80's but if you listen to there synth programming it was incredible for the time. They put in the extra time and made some incredible synth solo's, i would call that IDM. But than again, i would also call the talking heads song "born under punches" IDM. It was the avant garde for the time. > > I would never call SAW 1 and 2 IDM cause now it just sounds like ambient dance but for its time it was IDM so that is my justification. > > Adam Piontek <adam@damek.org> wrote: > No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Search presents - Jib Jab's 'Second Term' >

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On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > better than "IDM".

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problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 16 lines On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: > > > does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > > better than "IDM". > > The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you > simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an > exaggerated eye-roll... > > -- > > - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >

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I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to the person I'm talking to to make assumptions about what that means, or to inquire more about what specifically I like. They either pigeon-hole me in their mind, or ask me what I mean, and then we progress to specific artists and albums, and the history of the genre/email list. This is, I believe, really the only good way to talk about music: by specific example of the people and releases involved, and what little history/stories there are about the people making it. "IDM" is too specific and/or meaningless at term to serve as a jumping-off point, as far as I'm concerned. -Adam Piontek damek.org Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 26 lines problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the

> problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the > indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. > > ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson > <eric@explosive.net> wrote: > >>On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: >> >> >>>does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? >>>even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed >>>to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually >>>just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it >>>better than "IDM". >> >>The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you >>simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an >>exaggerated eye-roll... >> >>-- >> >> - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >> >

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I usually just refer to it as the kind of electronic music that would make you look like a jack ass for dancing to it. Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote:

quoted 5 lines does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music?

> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > better than "IDM".

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Whenever I say the "IDM", no one knows what I'm talking about, and the Geeks(you know who you are) just snicker and laugh, and call me old man. R. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Ah Adam - good answer :-) Within the last year I picked up Devo's Greatest Hits & companion Greatest Misses at a market stall, which brought back their brilliance with a rush. "Through Being Cool"... brilliant stuff. I have no idea how people would react to their sound now who have never heard them before, though? It's different having memories brought back if you remember them from their heyday, but if you weren't around at that time and come to it fresh now - how does it sound? I * On 8 Feb 2005 at 21:46, Adam Piontek wrote:

quoted 6 lines No, but IDM are Devo.

> No, but IDM are Devo. > > On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:24 PM, Robert Freeman wrote: > > > So,is DEVO IDM? I forgot. > >

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99.9 percent of people wouldn't have a clue if you told them you listen to "IDM" music. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Piontek" <adam@damek.org> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:59 AM Subject: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO)

quoted 49 lines I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to

> I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to > the person I'm talking to to make assumptions about what that means, or > to inquire more about what specifically I like. They either pigeon-hole > me in their mind, or ask me what I mean, and then we progress to > specific artists and albums, and the history of the genre/email list. > This is, I believe, really the only good way to talk about music: by > specific example of the people and releases involved, and what little > history/stories there are about the people making it. > > "IDM" is too specific and/or meaningless at term to serve as a > jumping-off point, as far as I'm concerned. > > -Adam Piontek > damek.org > > > Jason Clark wrote: > > problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the > > indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. > > > > ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) > > > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson > > <eric@explosive.net> wrote: > > > >>On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: > >> > >> > >>>does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of music? > >>>even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually embarrassed > >>>to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually > >>>just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to define it > >>>better than "IDM". > >> > >>The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if you > >>simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an > >>exaggerated eye-roll... > >> > >>-- > >> > >> - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - > >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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I usually have to say "I listen to electronica... and no I don't mean techno." -matT nashville.tn On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:06 AM, Greg Hill wrote:

quoted 72 lines 99.9 percent of people wouldn't have a clue if you told them you

> 99.9 percent of people wouldn't have a clue if you told them you > listen to > "IDM" music. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Adam Piontek" <adam@damek.org> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:59 AM > Subject: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO) > > >> I generally just say I listen to electronic music, and leave it up to >> the person I'm talking to to make assumptions about what that means, >> or >> to inquire more about what specifically I like. They either >> pigeon-hole >> me in their mind, or ask me what I mean, and then we progress to >> specific artists and albums, and the history of the genre/email list. >> This is, I believe, really the only good way to talk about music: by >> specific example of the people and releases involved, and what little >> history/stories there are about the people making it. >> >> "IDM" is too specific and/or meaningless at term to serve as a >> jumping-off point, as far as I'm concerned. >> >> -Adam Piontek >> damek.org >> >> >> Jason Clark wrote: >>> problem with that is, I'm over sarcasm and irony. leave that to the >>> indie rockers. they seem to enjoy it much more than me. >>> >>> ps - can i download the Handbook somewhere? ;) >>> >>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 07:43:03 -0800 (PST), Eric Sorenson >>> <eric@explosive.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Jason Clark wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> does anyone use "IDM" in daily life talking about this type of >>>>> music? >>>>> even though it's the style i most listen to, i'm usually >>>>> embarrassed >>>>> to use it in conversation. it's such a pretentious term. i usually >>>>> just say i listen to really weird electronic music. seems to >>>>> define it >>>>> better than "IDM". >>>> >>>> The Handbook sez you're only supposed to use it in conversation if >>>> you >>>> simultaneously make quote-marks with your fingers and give an >>>> exaggerated eye-roll... >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> - Eric Sorenson - Explosive Networking - http://eric.explosive.net - >>>> >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Count yourself lucky I have to say "I listen to electronica... and no I don't mean tangerine dream." :) cheers neil. -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Guest [mailto:matt@punctuate.net] Sent: 09 February 2005 17:24 To: {IDM} Subject: Re: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO) I usually have to say "I listen to electronica... and no I don't mean techno." -matT nashville.tn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 07/02/2005 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yea, I'm definitely not a fan of saying the word "electronica" - what is the extra "a" for anyway? I listen to electronic music. Among electronic music fans I could be heard using the term idm but it's always followed or preceded with some adjectives. On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 08:37:10 -0800, Greg Hill <cameron69@comcast.net> wrote:

quoted 30 lines "I listen to electronic music...and no I don't mean Paul Oakenfold!!!"

> "I listen to electronic music...and no I don't mean Paul Oakenfold!!!" > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "beatsploitation" <anatomist@beatsploitation.com> > To: "Matthew Guest" <matt@punctuate.net>; "{IDM}" <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 9:30 AM > Subject: RE: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO) > > > Count yourself lucky I have to say "I listen to electronica... and no I > > don't mean > > tangerine dream." > > > > :) > > > > cheers > > neil. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Matthew Guest [mailto:matt@punctuate.net] > > Sent: 09 February 2005 17:24 > > To: {IDM} > > Subject: Re: [idm] endless "IDM" genre term discussion (was re: DEVO) > > > > > > I usually have to say "I listen to electronica... and no I don't mean > > techno." > > > > -matT > > nashville.tn > >

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On Feb 9, 2005, at 12:09 PM, rickreaction wrote:

quoted 3 lines Yea, I'm definitely not a fan of saying the word "electronica" - what

> Yea, I'm definitely not a fan of saying the word "electronica" - what > is the extra "a" for anyway? >

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