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[idm] Re: Happy Geogaddi Day!/Christian puppetry of parasites

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2002-02-21 21:11... hellothisisalex ... [idm] Re: Happy Geogaddi Day!/Christian puppetry of parasites
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2002-02-21 21:11... hellothisisalex ...hellothisisalex, BoC most definitely utilize their artwork, samples and song titles to ful
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hellothisisalex, BoC most definitely utilize their artwork, samples and song titles to fulfill a greater mandate of sorts, however off-kilter and conceptual it is. The overall feeling you get from what they produce is hazy, but definite--it is all interwoven and interrelated. I would say that a great part of their success in this is using programmatic song titles--an example is 'the smallest weird number'--to infuse meaning into music that would otherwise be vague and open. Even in using programmatic titles, the songs remain open, just slightly more pointed towards some sort of idea. This is where I find most electronic music seems to excel--even in undecipherable titles, some sort of agenda is being hinted at--red herrings, confusion, pseudo-linguistic, etc. These agendas aren't necessarily political, religious et al, but can remain a great deal more open than a song with a programmatic title and lyrics to limit your interpretation (I'm not saying one is better than the other, simply that lyrics will tend to focus your search for meaning in a song even more tightly than instrumental music). This is part of what so strongly resonates for me with Geogaddi (esp. combined with the book). For other good examples of interesting programmatic song titles with instrumental music, check out The Internet Chinese Music Archives' (http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/multimedia/chinese-music/) section on Chinese Music in MP3 Format-->Traditional Music. Titles like "Ambush from All Sides," "Crows Playing with Water," etc. Mark & Melissa hellothisisalex www.hellothisisalex.com / records.hellothisisalex.com mp3s at www.raw42.com/cgi-bin/featuredartist.pl?artist=213 mark@hellothisisalex
quoted 1 line i do find even the best music dull sometimes without some sort of tangent>i do find even the best music dull sometimes without some sort of tangent
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quoted 1 line immerse myself in... I think thats why boc do so well is because they have>immerse myself in... I think thats why boc do so well is because they have
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quoted 6 lines constructive approach to their song names samples and packaging ... much>constructive approach to their song names samples and packaging ... much >more interesting than a seemingly random pseudo anogram song title and a >fractle picture ....but, if the content of the music is challinging enough >to empathise with the probable mathematical content of the fractal and the >title a linguistic pun of a formula perhaps....... > i find with some music that uses a sample of spoken word or a
dramatic
quoted 1 line chord a source of investigation , a chance to progress from that instance>chord a source of investigation , a chance to progress from that instance
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2002-02-21 22:50ugly and mean--- "... hellothisisalex ..." <mark@hellothisisalex.com> wrote: > hellothisisalex, > > BoC
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quoted 13 lines hellothisisalex,> hellothisisalex, > > BoC most definitely utilize their artwork, samples and song titles to > fulfill a greater mandate of sorts, however off-kilter and conceptual it > is. > The overall feeling you get from what they produce is hazy, but > definite--it > is all interwoven and interrelated. I would say that a great part of > their > success in this is using programmatic song titles--an example is 'the > smallest weird number'--to infuse meaning into music that would > otherwise be > vague and open.
My personal opinion is that BoC did this really well with Music Has the Right... , but they've taken it too far and are now bordering on hitting people over the head with their ideas. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-02-22 05:43... hellothisisalex ...> My personal opinion is that BoC did this really well with Music Has the > Right... , but
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quoted 3 lines My personal opinion is that BoC did this really well with Music Has the> My personal opinion is that BoC did this really well with Music Has the > Right... , but they've taken it too far and are now bordering on hitting > people over the head with their ideas.
I see where you're coming from, but I don't personally agree with you. I almost think that the album sounds a little bit like it is coming from the same place as Music Has the Right, but in a more developed way that lacks some of the parts that turned me off about Music Has the Right. I always really liked their earlier release, but geogaddi seems to make everything count, whereas I found some parts of Music Has the Right to lag or just not finish themselves in a way satisfactory to my liking (so this is naturally, all dependent on my own taste). I think that perhaps some people's disappointment with the release--not necessarily yours--is simply that a few years have passed now and a continuation of Music Has the Right was both what was wanted and not wanted--the progress syndrome, you want it, but you don't want too much of it to make the music so far from what you originally liked. I saw this happen on the list with Confield. I guess some people desire a whole lot of change from release to release, myself included, and some don't mind healthy development, myself included. Blah. I'm going nowhere with this. Basically, geogaddi is a fantastic release as far as I'm concerned. It perhaps doesn't sound as fresh as Music Has the Right, but only because it continues something that began with a release a few years back. Let us not forget that BoC's sound is halfway wedged between the nostalgic past and the present. But, I see where you're coming from. Looks like we both stand on opposite sides of a similar fence saying the same things about two different albums. cheers Mark & Melissa hellothisisalex www.hellothisisalex.com / records.hellothisisalex.com mp3s at www.raw42.com/cgi-bin/featuredartist.pl?artist=213 mark@hellothisisalex --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org