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this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines > > https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/ > spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >

Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 15 lines this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah

> this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah > Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation > > https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >> > >

i must admit this is interesting. i might be ignorant on some facts, but i know this album was first released on pete namlook’s Fax sub label being a rather limited edition. as far as his philosophy, peter’s that is, he would release the rights or whatever to the artist being mr. sharp in order for them to profit. my general understanding was pete was very fair and almost went bankrupt do to his dedication to the artist. i personally own an older reissue that i hope benefited mr. sharp. so, i would agree something shady is going on. a ironic side note, as i read the thread, i was listening to, “electro harmonix,” which is a collaboration between jonah sharp and tetsu inoue on that very same Fax label, suggesting anyone interested in Sea Biscuit should check out this one. Sent from my iPhone, hence grammatical and spelling errors are a logical assumption.

quoted 13 lines On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. > >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: >> this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation >> >> https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest >> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018

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Sent from my iPhone, hence grammatical and spelling errors are a logical assumption.

quoted 15 lines On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. > >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: >> this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation >> >> https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest >> >> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >> >

i must admit this is interesting  https://www.discogs.com/artist/2582368-Zippy-Kid  

quoted 38 lines Пятница, 16 марта 2018, 22:10 +03:00 от Verse Freeze <versefreeze@gmail.com>:

>Пятница, 16 марта 2018, 22:10 +03:00 от Verse Freeze <versefreeze@gmail.com>: > >i must admit this is interesting. i might be ignorant on some facts, but i know this album was first released on pete namlook’s Fax sub label being a rather  limited edition. as far as his philosophy, peter’s that is, he would release the rights or whatever to the artist being mr. sharp in order for them to profit. my general understanding was pete was very fair and almost went bankrupt do to his dedication to the artist. i personally own an older reissue that i hope benefited mr. sharp. so, i would agree something shady is going on.  > >a ironic side note, as i read the thread, i was listening to, “electro harmonix,” which is a collaboration between jonah sharp and tetsu inoue on that very same Fax label, suggesting anyone interested in Sea Biscuit should check out this one.  > >Sent from my iPhone, hence grammatical and spelling errors are a logical assumption.  > >On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer < ransom.schafer@gmail.com > wrote: > >>Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. >> >>On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor  < christaylor415@gmail.com >  wrote: >>>this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation >>> >>>https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest >>> >>>On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer  < ransom.schafer@gmail.com >  wrote: >>>> >>>>https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>> > >Sent from my iPhone, hence grammatical and spelling errors are a logical assumption.  > >On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:48 AM, Ransom Schafer < ransom.schafer@gmail.com > wrote: > >>Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. >> >>On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor < christaylor415@gmail.com > wrote: >>>this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation >>> >>>https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest >>> >>>On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < ransom.schafer@gmail.com > wrote: >>>> >>>>https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>> >>

-- Ruslan Troknyuk

On Fri, 16 Mar 2018, Verse Freeze wrote:

quoted 3 lines as i read the thread, i was listening to, ?electro harmonix,? which is

> as i read the thread, i was listening to, ?electro harmonix,? which is > a collaboration between jonah sharp and tetsu inoue on that very same > Fax label

Yes, _Electro Harmonix_ is good stuff. I had a radio show for a while and called it "Morphing Cloud". That track was not terribly this-listy, but "Replay" and "Floating Sync" were close enough. Plus, you mentioned Tetsu Inoue and I wanted to share that just last week, I was at an art/event space for First Friday, and the DJ dropped "Karmic Light" from _Ambiant Otaku_. It's not too often that I get to hear Tetsu's music being played out. Thankfully, the place had a couches and I had some time to chill out. phase np: Poly-Ana

If you don’t have a copy of this already, find a used copy of the Astralwerks version on Discogs. Or just download it from SLSK. Still better than giving that Psychonavigation guy any money. It’s not even a remaster. But get it. It’s really good. And if you don’t have Emit Ecaps, get that, too. And rEmit rEcaps has an Autechre remix, ferchrissakes. On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:49 AM Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 22 lines Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was

> Hmm... I'm holding off on this for now. Would be of interest if it was > remastered or something though. No info on the packaging that I can tell. > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 9:11 PM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> this album is super good but note that this reissue is against Jonah >> Sharp's wishes - this label is a known sketchy operation >> >> https://www.discogs.com/release/11560703-Sea-Biscuit/history#latest >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 11:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>> >> >> >

Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid buying the reissue many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, just obtain it elsewhere too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 4 lines > > https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/ > spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >

Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 24 lines Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid

> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid > buying the reissue > many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way too > many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the > subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want > what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, > just obtain it elsewhere > too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> >> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >> > >

Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds like classic STC. Lots to listen to. On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 44 lines > https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 > is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen > z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) > > Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used > super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped > to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y > idm. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid >>> buying the reissue >>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way >>> too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the >>> subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want >>> what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, >>> just obtain it elsewhere >>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>> >>> >>> >> >

I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this area. It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking it's "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like "voice of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into "chillout" (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on Planet Dog. My top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can that still count as 1?!) - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame that fucking killed it, and this was the best. - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album length. 1995, holy shit. - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. --eric

quoted 30 lines On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds like classic STC. Lots to listen to. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote: > https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 <https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767> is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagenz-Reagenz/master/13721 <https://www.discogs.com/Reagenz-Reagenz/master/13721> (Spacetime w/Move D) > > Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y idm. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid buying the reissue > many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, just obtain it elsewhere > too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > > https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 <https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018> > > > >

This is just wonderful. Reminds me a lot of Ambulance's The Curse of Vale do Lobo <http://planet.mu/releases/the-curse-of-vale-do-lobo/>. On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 84 lines I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this area.

> I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this area. > It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking it's > "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like "voice > of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into "chillout" > (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on Planet Dog. My > top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) > > - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can > that still count as 1?!) > > - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated > > - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double > entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame > that fucking killed it, and this was the best. > > - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album > length. 1995, holy shit. > > - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI > Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also > fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! > in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. > > --eric > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea > Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it > over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not > stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds > like classic STC. Lots to listen to. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 >> is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen >> z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) >> >> Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used >> super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped >> to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y >> idm. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >>> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid >>>> buying the reissue >>>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way >>>> too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the >>>> subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want >>>> what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, >>>> just obtain it elsewhere >>>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >

Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary producer. I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. Lena Willikens played in this style on her last Beats in Space appearance https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy for it too I dig this stuff too but Planet Dog is where I have to draw the line. On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 84 lines I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this area.

> I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this area. > It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking it's > "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like "voice > of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into "chillout" > (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on Planet Dog. My > top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) > > - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can > that still count as 1?!) > > - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated > > - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double > entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame > that fucking killed it, and this was the best. > > - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album > length. 1995, holy shit. > > - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI > Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also > fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! > in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. > > --eric > > On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea > Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it > over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not > stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds > like classic STC. Lots to listen to. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 >> is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen >> z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) >> >> Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used >> super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped >> to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y >> idm. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com >> > wrote: >> >>> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >>> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid >>>> buying the reissue >>>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way >>>> too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the >>>> subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want >>>> what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, >>>> just obtain it elsewhere >>>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> > >

I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop ebm side of things I was digging this mix of hers on soundcloud a while back: https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena-willikens-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017 On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 100 lines Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary

> Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary > producer. > > I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. > > Lena Willikens played in this style on her last Beats in Space appearance > https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 > also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy for it too > > > I dig this stuff too but Planet Dog is where I have to draw the line. > > On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> > wrote: > >> I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this >> area. It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking >> it's "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like >> "voice of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into >> "chillout" (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on >> Planet Dog. My top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) >> >> - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can >> that still count as 1?!) >> >> - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated >> >> - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double >> entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame >> that fucking killed it, and this was the best. >> >> - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album >> length. 1995, holy shit. >> >> - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI >> Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also >> fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! >> in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. >> >> --eric >> >> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea >> Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it >> over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not >> stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds >> like classic STC. Lots to listen to. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 >>> is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen >>> z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) >>> >>> Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used >>> super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped >>> to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y >>> idm. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >>>> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid >>>>> buying the reissue >>>>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way >>>>> too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the >>>>> subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want >>>>> what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, >>>>> just obtain it elsewhere >>>>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >

Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of both that connect the two styles for her. although maybe not pop - dunno if i've ever heard her play a vocal track. I've also noticed that she rarely if ever plays above 120bpm super excellent dj On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 112 lines I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop ebm

> I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop ebm > side of things > > I was digging this mix of hers on soundcloud a while back: > > https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena- > willikens-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017 > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary >> producer. >> >> I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. >> >> Lena Willikens played in this style on her last Beats in Space appearance >> https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 >> also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy for it too >> >> >> I dig this stuff too but Planet Dog is where I have to draw the line. >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this >>> area. It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking >>> it's "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like >>> "voice of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into >>> "chillout" (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on >>> Planet Dog. My top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) >>> >>> - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can >>> that still count as 1?!) >>> >>> - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated >>> >>> - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double >>> entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame >>> that fucking killed it, and this was the best. >>> >>> - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album >>> length. 1995, holy shit. >>> >>> - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI >>> Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also >>> fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! >>> in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. >>> >>> --eric >>> >>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea >>> Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it >>> over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not >>> stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds >>> like classic STC. Lots to listen to. >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 >>>> is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen >>>> z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) >>>> >>>> Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff used >>>> super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get hipped >>>> to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for electro-y >>>> idm. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >>>>> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would avoid >>>>>> buying the reissue >>>>>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read way >>>>>> too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on the >>>>>> subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really want >>>>>> what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or whatever, >>>>>> just obtain it elsewhere >>>>>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>>>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >

I didn't mean pop music explicitly. She has a way of putting a vocoder or bizarre vocal sample in a track that fits and seems like pop to me, more like a pop underworld. I don't know maybe it's the slow down beats too, gives the tunes a slightly downturned italo feel sometimes. On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 125 lines Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of

> Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of > both that connect the two styles for her. although maybe not pop - dunno if > i've ever heard her play a vocal track. > > I've also noticed that she rarely if ever plays above 120bpm > > super excellent dj > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop ebm >> side of things >> >> I was digging this mix of hers on soundcloud a while back: >> >> https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena-williken >> s-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017 >> >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary >>> producer. >>> >>> I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. >>> >>> Lena Willikens played in this style on her last Beats in Space >>> appearance >>> https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 >>> also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy for it too >>> >>> >>> I dig this stuff too but Planet Dog is where I have to draw the line. >>> >>> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:24 AM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I love this sound and wonder if people are still out working in this >>>> area. It's so close to the Artificial Intelligence trax. Generally speaking >>>> it's "ambient techno" but there's a very particular vibe that tracks like >>>> "voice of the earth" hit ... it's gotta be chill without getting into >>>> "chillout" (so no mixmaster morris) and trancey without going full-on >>>> Planet Dog. My top 5 (aside from Sea Biscuit) >>>> >>>> - Higher Intelligence Agency "Colourform" (or maybe "Freefloater"! can >>>> that still count as 1?!) >>>> >>>> - Real LIfe "Journey of the Carcharadon" - under appreciated >>>> >>>> - Pete Namlook and Jonah Sharp - "Alien Community 2" - perhaps a double >>>> entry, but there was a sequence of Namlook collabs in the 94-96 time frame >>>> that fucking killed it, and this was the best. >>>> >>>> - Speedy J - "G Spot" - two tracks on AI 1, extended out into album >>>> length. 1995, holy shit. >>>> >>>> - S.E.T.I - "The Geometry of Night" - now this *isn't* the SETI >>>> Arecibo/Phoenix double album on Instinct Ambient, though that is also >>>> fucking incredible, it's the Andrew Lagowski project released on Incoming! >>>> in 1996. Samples about aliens ratio is wayyy up there. >>>> >>>> --eric >>>> >>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 8:15 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea >>>> Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like it >>>> over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious and not >>>> stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but still sounds >>>> like classic STC. Lots to listen to. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor < >>>> christaylor415@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/m >>>>> aster/72767 is really special as is https://www.discogs.com/Reagen >>>>> z-Reagenz/master/13721 (Spacetime w/Move D) >>>>> >>>>> Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff >>>>> used super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting to get >>>>> hipped to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are especially nice for >>>>> electro-y idm. >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint copy >>>>>> elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution is a good idea. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really would >>>>>>> avoid buying the reissue >>>>>>> many people have dealt with the guy running this label and i read >>>>>>> way too many accounts of his antics last night while doing some research on >>>>>>> the subject, the artist is never going to see a dime so unless you really >>>>>>> want what's probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or >>>>>>> whatever, just obtain it elsewhere >>>>>>> too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great album, wow >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer < >>>>>>> ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/s >>>>>>>> pacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >

Very nice stuff, thanks. RHK does come to mind a bit

quoted 34 lines Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of

> Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of > both that connect the two styles for her. although maybe not pop - > dunno if i've ever heard her play a vocal track. > > I've also noticed that she rarely if ever plays above 120bpm > > super excellent dj > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Ransom Schafer > <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop > ebm side of things > > I was digging this mix of hers on soundcloud a while back: > > https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena-willikens-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017 > <https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena-willikens-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017> > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Chris Taylor > <christaylor415@gmail.com <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - > contemporary producer. > > I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. > > Lena Willikens played in this style on her last  Beats in > Space appearance > https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 > <https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018> > also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy > for it too >

nice so im reading on facebook that the people who bought this on bandcamp from psychonavigation, psychonavigation has apparently closed/deleted/been deleted and so have their digital releases! Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 12:09 AM, John D. <johndalton@pchome.com.tw> wrote:

quoted 36 lines Very nice stuff, thanks. RHK does come to mind a bit

> Very nice stuff, thanks. RHK does come to mind a bit > > Yeah yr definitely right Random - I think that its the electro side of > both that connect the two styles for her. although maybe not pop - dunno if > i've ever heard her play a vocal track. > > I've also noticed that she rarely if ever plays above 120bpm > > super excellent dj > > On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 3:18 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> I always thought of Lena Willikens as more in the dark electro pop ebm >> side of things >> >> I was digging this mix of hers on soundcloud a while back: >> >> https://soundcloud.com/strangesoundsfrombeyond/lena-williken >> s-at-strange-sounds-from-beyond-2017 >> >> On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 11:26 AM, Chris Taylor <christaylor415@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Some of the "Scientific Dreamz of U" stuff is on that tip - contemporary >>> producer. >>> >>> I would include Richard H Kirk/Sandoz on that list too. >>> >>> Lena Willikens played in this style on her last Beats in Space >>> appearance >>> https://soundcloud.com/timsweeney/lenawillikens2018 >>> also when I saw her dj a few months ago - people went crazy for it too >>> >> >

Psychonavigation the traveling salesman of Fax bootlegs..?

I still like the first track a lot, Pressure

quoted 60 lines Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea

> Thanks for the comments and suggestions on this. Been listening to Sea > Biscuit in bits and pieces recently and I have to say I kind of like > it over Emit Ecaps now. Sea Biscuit is more condensed and mysterious > and not stretched out musically over a lot of different styles, but > still sounds like classic STC. Lots to listen to. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:37 AM, Chris Taylor > <christaylor415@gmail.com <mailto:christaylor415@gmail.com>> wrote: > > https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767 > <https://www.discogs.com/Space-Time-Continuum-Fluresence-EP/master/72767> > is really special as is > https://www.discogs.com/Reagenz-Reagenz/master/13721 > <https://www.discogs.com/Reagenz-Reagenz/master/13721> (Spacetime > w/Move D) > > Great label in general. It used to be very easy to find this stuff > used super cheap in the Bay Area but I think people are starting > to get hipped to it. The Vulva and Velocette records are > especially nice for electro-y idm. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 1:31 PM, Ransom Schafer > <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Avoiding the Psychonavigation reissue. I can find a near mint > copy elsewhere, but a reissue for this with wider distribution > is a good idea. > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 10:16 AM, Clint Anderson > <clinta@gmail.com <mailto:clinta@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Yeah I have to say after investigating this more I really > would avoid buying the reissue > many people have dealt with the guy running this label and > i read way too many accounts of his antics last night > while doing some research on the subject, the artist is > never going to see a dime so unless you really want what's > probably going to be a cdr of Sea Biscuit for $12.99 or > whatever, just obtain it elsewhere > too bad since its a amazing, really really effing great > album, wow > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Ransom Schafer > <ransom.schafer@gmail.com > <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018 > <https://psychonavigationrecordsofficial.bandcamp.com/album/spacetime-continuum-sea-biscuit-2018> > > > > >