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2000-12-19 12:24Steve LongmanFace it.. In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing his own

From:: Steve Longman <steve_longman@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 12:24:07 -0000
Subject:: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

Face it.. In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing his own concept.. releasing his own 12" & Lps at 16.. in TOTAL isolation.. and making over 120 Lps, 12" Mixes.. compilations..in his short life.. Developed his own style, never used samplers.. managed to get sounds out of instruments that were beyond the normal usage.. and still managed to out do most of you Then, Now and EVER... Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know who I mean.. and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze. Pronounce this... and file it away in your yearly pol. FUCK YOU. Manchester Rules ! _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 13:04wellsAt 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote: >Id say He pisses on most of this so ca

From:: wells <wells@submute.net>
To:: Steve Longman <steve_longman@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:04:51 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !
Reply to:: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote:

quoted 3 lines Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height..

>Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. >All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know who I mean.. >and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze.

Yeah, and he hated "the stench that is" Israel and Jews, too. go Muslimgauze, for sure. okay, okay, i have 6 or 7 Muslimgauze CDs. I confess. I'm sorry. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 15:47diverse_gendersOn Tue, 19 Dec 2000, wells wrote: > At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote: > >

From:: diverse_genders <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
To:: wells <wells@submute.net>
Cc:: Steve Longman <steve_longman@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:47:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, wells wrote:

quoted 7 lines At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote:

> At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote: > > >Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. > >All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know who I mean.. > >and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze. > > Yeah, and he hated "the stench that is" Israel and Jews, too.

do you (or anyone) have a source on this quote? thanks! chris. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 22:52Alien> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, wells wrote: > > > At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrot

From:: Alien <ibss@ukrpack.net>
To:: idm list <idm@hyperreal.org>, diverse_genders <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
Date:: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 00:52:23 +0200
Subject:: RE: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

quoted 13 lines On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, wells wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, wells wrote: > > > At 12:24 PM 12/19/2000 +0000, Steve Longman wrote: > > > > >Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. > > >All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know > who I mean.. > > >and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze. > > > > Yeah, and he hated "the stench that is" Israel and Jews, too. > > do you (or anyone) have a source on this quote? >

IMHO and knowledge Well, I can say that I'm sure he was with Muslims in this stupid Israeli-Palestinian religios warfare. He named his albums and tracks with proclamations of the Muslim ideas. He was an active supporter of Independent Palestina. Nevertheless, I am a huge fan of his music and I wish he could be with us still and continue to work on his masterpieces... Alien not supportive of any warfare conflict resolution...yet still searching for some new brilliant stuff from Muslimgauze... np. Arecibo - Trans Plutonian Transmissions strict idm content: Metamatics "Midnight Sun Pig" - rocks! Mouse on Mars "Instrumentals" - is the pre-last brick in my almost full MoM collection...for those who have not heard them until now by any chance I strongly recommend anything with their name on it... 8) Thanks for those who remember us poor cd player people unable to listen to the notorious vinyl-only releases and providing us with such delayed gems in CD format.

quoted 10 lines thanks!

> > thanks! > > chris. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2000-12-19 15:45diverse_gendersi am a HUGE muslimgauze fan and always try to turn people on to his stuff... posts like th

From:: diverse_genders <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
To:: Steve Longman <steve_longman@hotmail.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:45:38 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !
Reply to:: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

i am a HUGE muslimgauze fan and always try to turn people on to his stuff... posts like this, however, will never help turn people on to anything. for those curious, i think the best place to get muslimgauze stuff online is www.soleilmoon.com. wee! chris. ps: not breathing is playing in southern california tonight and thursday. i have all the info if you need it.. On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Steve Longman wrote:

quoted 33 lines Face it..

> Face it.. > > In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing his > own concept.. releasing his own 12" & Lps at 16.. in TOTAL isolation.. and > making over 120 Lps, 12" Mixes.. compilations..in his short life.. > > Developed his own style, never used samplers.. managed to get sounds out of > instruments that were beyond the normal usage.. and still managed to out do > most of you Then, Now and EVER... > > Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. > All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know who I mean.. > and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze. > > Pronounce this... and file it away in your yearly pol. > > FUCK YOU. > > Manchester Rules ! > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-12-19 12:38Guerdis> FUCK YOU I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. MG ------------------------

From:: Guerdis <guerdis@mindspring.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 06:38:38 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

quoted 1 line FUCK YOU

> FUCK YOU

I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. MG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 14:29MartinSteve said: > > In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing hi

From:: Martin <apollon@freeuk.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:29:09 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

Steve said:

quoted 18 lines In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing his

> > In the 17 YEARS Bryn was around doing music.. his own covers,developing his > own concept.. releasing his own 12" & Lps at 16.. in TOTAL isolation.. and > making over 120 Lps, 12" Mixes.. compilations..in his short life.. > > Developed his own style, never used samplers.. managed to get sounds out of > instruments that were beyond the normal usage.. and still managed to out do > most of you Then, Now and EVER... > > Id say He pisses on most of this so called IDM from a great height.. > All this talk on IDM about a "rotation" of artists.. you know who I mean.. > and this list consistantly over looks artists like Muslimgauze. > > Pronounce this... and file it away in your yearly pol. > > FUCK YOU. > > Manchester Rules !

I couldn't agree more, Bryn released music that makes most idm sound tame lifeless, and boring...all this without a computer or sampler...not sure about Manchester ruling though... just for you, London --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 14:35Martin---------- > I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. > > MG That funny, I alwa

From:: Martin <apollon@freeuk.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 15:35:20 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

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quoted 3 lines I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass.

> I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. > > MG

That funny, I always thought you did... Apollon --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 21:25Matt HollandI'll go ahead and tackle this as my first post to the IDM list...I personally like some of

From:: Matt Holland <mholland@speakeasy.org>
To:: Martin <apollon@freeuk.com>
Cc:: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:25:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !
Reply to:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

I'll go ahead and tackle this as my first post to the IDM list...I personally like some of his Music and dislike some, after acquiring a fair amount of it I've decided I have more than enough for now... (i.e. it all starts to sound a bit samey-samey) One thing that has dissapointed me though is that on the BSI Systemwide Vs. Muslimgauze release, there is a muslimgauze track that is nothing more than filter tweaking a DR-202 preset pattern. I kind of lost a bit of repect after making that connection... Still I recommend it to anyone who isn't familiar...Syrinjita and Lo-Fi India Abuse are relatively easy to find.... -matt On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Martin wrote:

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> > > ---------- > > > I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. > > > > MG > That funny, I always thought you did... > > Apollon > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2000-12-19 15:59wells@submute.nethttp://www.spiderbytes.com/ambientrance/muslimgauze.htm Although I was incorrect w/ the qu

From:: wells@submute.net <wells@submute.net>
To:: tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>, wells@submute.net <wells@submute.net>, steve_longman@hotmail.com <steve_longman@hotmail.com>, idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:59:34 -0500
Subject:: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

http://www.spiderbytes.com/ambientrance/muslimgauze.htm Although I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact hates (well, he "detests") the "vile stench of Israel." Original Message: ----------------- From: diverse_genders tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:47:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you ! do you (or anyone) have a source on this quote? ------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been posted from Mail2Web http://www.mail2web.com/ Web Hosting for $9.95 per month! Visit: http://www.yourhosting.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 16:54joshtwentythreeafter reading that...I have no want to ever hear any of this guys music, sounds like a tot

From:: joshtwentythree <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>
To:: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:54:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

after reading that...I have no want to ever hear any of this guys music, sounds like a total cock...I don't care if it's any good... josh23 --- "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net> wrote:

quoted 1 line

http://www.spiderbytes.com/ambientrance/muslimgauze.htm

quoted 19 lines Although I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact

> > Although I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact > hates (well, he "detests") the "vile stench of > Israel." > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: diverse_genders tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu > Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 07:47:19 -0800 (PST) > Subject: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you > ! > > > do you (or anyone) have a source on this quote? > > > > >

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2000-12-19 16:58{{{5x}}}> I couldn't agree more, Bryn released music that makes most idm sound tame > lifeless, an

From:: {{{5x}}} <5tx@home.com>
To:: Martin <apollon@freeuk.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:58:36 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

quoted 1 line I couldn't agree more, Bryn released music that makes most idm sound

> I couldn't agree more, Bryn released music that makes most idm sound

tame

quoted 1 line lifeless, and boring...all this without a computer or sampler...not

> lifeless, and boring...all this without a computer or sampler...not

sure

quoted 1 line about Manchester ruling though...

> about Manchester ruling though...

i've known about the no samplers thing for a while but how did he do it? did he just record each instrument into a 4track or something? some can explain?? shaun --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 17:11Matthew BurrowsAlthough I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact hates (well, he "detests") the "vile ste

From:: Matthew Burrows <matthew_burrows@hotmail.com>
To:: <wells@submute.net>, <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>, <steve_longman@hotmail.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:11:18
Subject:: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

Although I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact hates (well, he "detests") the "vile stench of Israel." for more (its political so if afraid/uninterested, leave well alone: http://www.zmag.org/ZNETTOPnoanimation.html (old, but w/good overview) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 17:21Matthew Burrowsi must apologise....the hyperlink doesn't work properly, so you ave to search for info.. .

From:: Matthew Burrows <matthew_burrows@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 17:21:03
Subject:: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

i must apologise....the hyperlink doesn't work properly, so you ave to search for info.. ...muslimgauze was certainly a very dogmatic/ideological bloke, which doesn't sit easy w/me (music ain't all that either) christ that was all a bit dull _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-19 18:35wells@submute.netWell, not to really defend the guy that much, but I think his thoughts are focused more on

From:: wells@submute.net <wells@submute.net>
To:: scifijosh23@yahoo.com <scifijosh23@yahoo.com>, idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:35:30 -0500
Subject:: Re: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

Well, not to really defend the guy that much, but I think his thoughts are focused more on the situation with Israel and Palestine and therefore more of a political statement, and not much a senseless "I hate Jews" approach. but then, he is pretty crass anyway. and i have to admit, a lot of his music is great. Original Message: ----------------- From: joshtwentythree scifijosh23@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 08:54:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you ! after reading that...I have no want to ever hear any of this guys music, sounds like a total cock...I don't care if it's any good... josh23 --- "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net> wrote:

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quoted 19 lines Although I was incorrect w/ the quote. He in fact

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2000-12-19 19:13Guerdis> > I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. > > > > MG > That funny, I always

From:: Guerdis <guerdis@mindspring.com>
To:: Martin <apollon@freeuk.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:13:14 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

quoted 6 lines I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass.

> > I've always thought muslimgauze sort of sucked ass. > > > > MG > That funny, I always thought you did... > > Apollon

Yeah, but you were wrong, Leroy. It was Muslimgauze. MG --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-12-20 00:49".zac. --------<>---------" <ethereon@undergroundsource.com>i thought he had a whole bunch of reel-to-reels... along w/ whatever else he might use sou

From:: <".zac. --------<>---------" <ethereon@undergroundsource.com>>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 16:49:00 -0800
Subject:: RE: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you !

i thought he had a whole bunch of reel-to-reels... along w/ whatever else he might use sounds like a pain in the ass to me...

quoted 21 lines From: "{{{5x}}}" <5tx@home.com>

>From: "{{{5x}}}" <5tx@home.com> >To: "Martin" <apollon@freeuk.com>, <idm@hyperreal.org> >Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 10:58:36 -0600 >Subject: Re: [idm] Muslimgauze Pisses on Most of you ! > >> I couldn't agree more, Bryn released music that makes most idm sound >tame >> lifeless, and boring...all this without a computer or sampler...not >sure >> about Manchester ruling though... > >i've known about the no samplers thing for a while but how did he do it? >did he just record each instrument into a 4track or something? >some can explain?? > >shaun > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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