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2000-08-04 12:35Scott boyRephlex Records Knocks Techno Off Its High Horse This Ain't No Disco by Hobey Echlin ith l
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Rephlex Records Knocks Techno Off Its High Horse This Ain't No Disco by Hobey Echlin ith last year's swan-song-cum-video "Windowlicker," Richard "Aphex Twin" James retired from music-making, which was just as well. As electronic music's resident funnyman, he hadbecome more its Rich Little than its Andy Kaufman, shtickishly pantomiming his role in the usually humorless scene. First there was 1996's"Girl Boy Song," its spazzy breakbeat dry-humping a classical interlude, as much a punchline as an ersatz "Swan Lake." Then came his remix of Beck's "Devil's Haircut," rechristened "Richard's Hairpiece" after he stripped the low-end off and sped up the vocal to a grating ping of hi-hats. But "Windowlicker" was the crowning glory, its spare, rubbery rhythm serving up as good an excuse as any for a pimp-playing James and director Chris Cunningham to ride around in a block-long stretch limo, indulging and subverting T&A imagery like gender-challenging director Matthew Barney making a 2 Live Crew video: Teases of string-bikini-clad curves end up belonging to women that all have James's grinning, bearded mug. As the old Chas and Dave song put it, "Nice legs, shame about the face." But if James has moved into pop culture proper with his megabudget videos making fun of other megabudget videos, his Rephlex label carries on the Aphex Twin aesthetic on the underground techno front. Founded in Cornwall in 1991 by James and partner Grant Wilson Claridge, Rephlex (www.rephlex.com) has in the last few years shifted from its initial rave-era renaissance, when it boasted releases by Squarepusher and ?-Ziq, into its current post-rave, post-everything mannerist jag, putting out music by artists who sound as if their only contact with electronic music is from listening to squelchy ham-radio broadcasts in remote parts of the world: Ovuca in Finland, proudly representing North of the Arctic Circle with his chilly, scattered, free-range tundra-jungle version of soul music; Lektrogirl in her native Tasmania making infantilistic electro, from the sounds of it, while reading the software manual on her lap; Bogdan Raczynski in Poland or Japan or (judging from his album Thinking of You's poster insert) wherever he's wearing that flowered dress and pushing that shopping cart, with his battered laptop full of stream-of-consciousness bleeps and broken beats over which to rant about DJs and Ibiza, buoyed by the oddly sentimental segue of embittered lost love to lull him to sleep, those Brit bastards be damned. Then there's DMX Krew, who evidently have never heard music made after 1984, at least any made with guitar. This has yielded an alarmingly consistent string of albums-that-time-forgot that sound like the Monkees trying to be Kraftwerk: obliviously, and-your-point-would-be-edly reactionary, blissfully free of all that herky-jerky future-retro irony that fuels smirky neo-electroids like Add N To (X). Likewise, compared to the running commentary of IDM (so-called Intelligent Dance Music) about other, one infers, less-intelligent music (current IDM poster boy Kid 606's new offering scrambles N.W.A.'s "Fuck tha Police"), Like A Tim's Rephlex release Red and Blue Boxing seems beamed in from some parallel universe where laws of 4/4 tempo, melody, even simple coherence, sometimes brilliantly, usually annoyingly, don't apply. But as wildly varying as Rephlex releases are, they all share the na?ve eccentricity of their label founder, so uncannily that if all these folks were really just elaborate aliases for James's own schizophrenic output, nobody would be shocked. But if it is all a joke, dance music, and music in general, is finally getting it. As lines blur between "good" and "bad" with the emergence of the so-bad-it's-good category of "amazing," usually favored by brainy critics to excuse guilty-pleasure love of dumb rock, Raczynski is indeed amazing, fueled by a brave (everybody has those weird minutes squinting in the bathroom mirror half-singing embarrassing songs; only Raczynski makes albums of them) and occasionally shocking confidence (his misogynistic hate-rants against British consumerism have gotten him banned from England). Though inspired by dance music, he's free from its shackled-to-club-play tunnel vision, even if, for now, he's defined by it?not unlike the insanely un-punk Butthole Surfers playing hardcore-punk clubs in the mid '80s. James and Claridge themselves prefer to call their post-dance aesthetic "braindance." But as a recent spate of dance records exhibiting Rephlex-ian eccentricities shows, this post-dance "amazing"-ness is converging with dance music's need to find the funk in new ways. The best Detroit techno single in 10 years, the helium electro sex-up "Sandwiches" by Detroit Grand Pubahs, owes more to Dr. Demento than Derrick May, while techno granddaddy Sven V?th and France's Mr. Oizo have both released records of no-it's-not-a-joke kindergarten techno more kindred to Lektrogirl than Jeff Mills. Even house homeboy Armand Van Helden's new Killing Puritans album, with its street-person conspiracy theories, human beat-boxing, and rampant middle fingers to the dance status quo (in between requisite jiggy tracks, of course), sounds more like Bogdan Raczynski's Thinking of You, itself full of noisy beats and hilarious "Fuck you DJ" lines ("lazyass DJ shit . . . my dog could make better beats than you . . . and I don't even have a dog") than, say, the last Basement Jaxx record. Dance music more and more lets us down with tracky albums that bounce between ever more hermetically sealed genres. (Question for house producers: Is disco the only thing worth sampling in the last 25 years?) So when, after an afternoon of braindancing to Raczynski, a colleague of mine commented, "This is what your parents hear when you play them techno . . . a bunch of noise," all I could respond with was, "And your point would be?" 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2000-08-04 19:03Jason BirchmeierAs a fellow writer, I'm intrigued by the fact that Mr. Echlin is getting pieces such as th
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As a fellow writer, I'm intrigued by the fact that Mr. Echlin is getting pieces such as this published in Village Voice. I think it's good to see high-brow electronic music getting coverage in such a recognized publication. Furthermore, I like the fact that he raises the bar on how far he takes his style, now that he doesn't have to dumb his thoughts down for Mixer's.........pedestrian(?) demographic. Of course, I walk away from this article thinking more about his writing style than his content -- could be because of my role as a writer though. Anyone have any other thoughts? Like him or hate him (sometimes I'm unsure which side I prefer), I think Echlin is worthy of comment. Is he all talk, style, and flowers? Or is he someone with something to say? Jason Birchmeier
quoted 147 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Scott boy [mailto:mckeating23@hotmail.com] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 8:35 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] Interesting article > > > > Rephlex Records Knocks Techno Off Its High Horse > This Ain't No Disco > by Hobey Echlin > > > > ith last year's swan-song-cum-video "Windowlicker," Richard "Aphex Twin" > James retired from music-making, which was just as well. As electronic > music's resident funnyman, he hadbecome more its Rich Little than > its Andy > Kaufman, shtickishly pantomiming his role in the usually humorless scene. > First there was 1996's"Girl Boy Song," its spazzy breakbeat dry-humping a > classical interlude, as much a punchline as an ersatz "Swan > Lake." Then came > his remix of Beck's "Devil's Haircut," rechristened "Richard's Hairpiece" > after he stripped the low-end off and sped up the vocal to a > grating ping of > hi-hats. But "Windowlicker" was the crowning glory, its spare, rubbery > rhythm serving up as good an excuse as any for a pimp-playing James and > director Chris Cunningham to ride around in a block-long stretch limo, > indulging and subverting T&A imagery like gender-challenging director > Matthew Barney making a 2 Live Crew video: Teases of string-bikini-clad > curves end up belonging to women that all have James's grinning, bearded > mug. As the old Chas and Dave song put it, "Nice legs, shame about the > face." > > But if James has moved into pop culture proper with his megabudget videos > making fun of other megabudget videos, his Rephlex label carries on the > Aphex Twin aesthetic on the underground techno front. Founded in > Cornwall in > 1991 by James and partner Grant Wilson Claridge, Rephlex > (www.rephlex.com) > has in the last few years shifted from its initial rave-era renaissance, > when it boasted releases by Squarepusher and µ-Ziq, into its current > post-rave, post-everything mannerist jag, putting out music by > artists who > sound as if their only contact with electronic music is from listening to > squelchy ham-radio broadcasts in remote parts of the world: Ovuca in > Finland, proudly representing North of the Arctic Circle with his chilly, > scattered, free-range tundra-jungle version of soul music; > Lektrogirl in her > native Tasmania making infantilistic electro, from the sounds of > it, while > reading the software manual on her lap; Bogdan Raczynski in > Poland or Japan > or (judging from his album Thinking of You's poster insert) wherever he's > wearing that flowered dress and pushing that shopping cart, with his > battered laptop full of stream-of-consciousness bleeps and broken > beats over > which to rant about DJs and Ibiza, buoyed by the oddly > sentimental segue of > embittered lost love to lull him to sleep, those Brit bastards be damned. > > Then there's DMX Krew, who evidently have never heard music made > after 1984, > at least any made with guitar. This has yielded an alarmingly consistent > string of albums-that-time-forgot that sound like the Monkees > trying to be > Kraftwerk: obliviously, and-your-point-would-be-edly reactionary, > blissfully > free of all that herky-jerky future-retro irony that fuels smirky > neo-electroids like Add N To (X). > > Likewise, compared to the running commentary of IDM (so-called > Intelligent > Dance Music) about other, one infers, less-intelligent music (current IDM > poster boy Kid 606's new offering scrambles N.W.A.'s "Fuck tha Police"), > Like A Tim's Rephlex release Red and Blue Boxing seems beamed in > from some > parallel universe where laws of 4/4 tempo, melody, even simple coherence, > sometimes brilliantly, usually annoyingly, don't apply. > > But as wildly varying as Rephlex releases are, they all share the naïve > eccentricity of their label founder, so uncannily that if all these folks > were really just elaborate aliases for James's own schizophrenic output, > nobody would be shocked. But if it is all a joke, dance music, > and music in > general, is finally getting it. As lines blur between "good" and > "bad" with > the emergence of the so-bad-it's-good category of "amazing," > usually favored > by brainy critics to excuse guilty-pleasure love of dumb rock, > Raczynski is > indeed amazing, fueled by a brave (everybody has those weird minutes > squinting in the bathroom mirror half-singing embarrassing songs; only > Raczynski makes albums of them) and occasionally shocking confidence (his > misogynistic hate-rants against British consumerism have gotten > him banned > from England). Though inspired by dance music, he's free from its > shackled-to-club-play tunnel vision, even if, for now, he's defined by > it—not unlike the insanely un-punk Butthole Surfers playing hardcore-punk > clubs in the mid '80s. > > James and Claridge themselves prefer to call their post-dance aesthetic > "braindance." But as a recent spate of dance records exhibiting > Rephlex-ian > eccentricities shows, this post-dance "amazing"-ness is converging with > dance music's need to find the funk in new ways. The best Detroit techno > single in 10 years, the helium electro sex-up "Sandwiches" by > Detroit Grand > Pubahs, owes more to Dr. Demento than Derrick May, while techno > granddaddy > Sven Väth and France's Mr. Oizo have both released records of > no-it's-not-a-joke kindergarten techno more kindred to Lektrogirl > than Jeff > Mills. Even house homeboy Armand Van Helden's new Killing Puritans album, > with its street-person conspiracy theories, human beat-boxing, > and rampant > middle fingers to the dance status quo (in between requisite > jiggy tracks, > of course), sounds more like Bogdan Raczynski's Thinking of You, > itself full > of noisy beats and hilarious "Fuck you DJ" lines ("lazyass DJ > shit . . . my > dog could make better beats than you . . . and I don't even have a dog") > than, say, the last Basement Jaxx record. > > Dance music more and more lets us down with tracky albums that bounce > between ever more hermetically sealed genres. (Question for house > producers: > Is disco the only thing worth sampling in the last 25 years?) So > when, after > an afternoon of braindancing to Raczynski, a colleague of mine commented, > "This is what your parents hear when you play them techno . . . a > bunch of > noise," all I could respond with was, "And your point would be?" > > Tell us what you think. editor@villagevoice.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-08-04 23:14Jamie Osborne8/4/00 Yo. I would say that Echlin is the real deal. Check out the archives of the Detroit
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8/4/00 Yo. I would say that Echlin is the real deal. Check out the archives of the Detroit MetroTimes (www.metrotimes.com) for other examples of his writing. It is good to see him make it to the "big leagues" of the free-rags. I've been familiar with his writing since the late 80's. He's lived through the development of the genre in the city that started it... Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Richie Hawtin, Mojo, etc. I like his stuff. Do the research and you will see that he knows his shit. Peace. J --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-08 14:17Jason BirchmeierI just get frustrated when I read his dumbed-down articles in America's official commercia
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I just get frustrated when I read his dumbed-down articles in America's official commercial trance sponsor, Mixer. I think he has so much more potential to communicate deeper ideas with more poetic craft than Mixer allows. Why can't there be more high-brow magazines out there that don't focus on 17 year old ravers with E-fried brains as their primary demographic? These mailing lists are cool and all, but I still enjoy the feel of a magazine and all it's glossy pictures. Unfortunately, I still haven't found anything worthwhile. I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim.
quoted 33 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Jamie Osborne [mailto:osbornej@cess.org] > Sent: Friday, August 04, 2000 7:15 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: RE: [idm] Interesting article > > > 8/4/00 > > Yo. > > I would say that Echlin is the real deal. Check out the archives of the > Detroit MetroTimes (www.metrotimes.com) for other examples of his writing. > It is good to see him make it to the "big leagues" of the free-rags. > > I've been familiar with his writing since the late 80's. He's lived > through the development of the genre in the city that started it... > Derrick May, Juan Atkins, Richie Hawtin, Mojo, etc. > > I like his stuff. Do the research and you will see that he knows > his shit. > > Peace. > > J > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2000-08-08 17:09sallythe only magazine i can think of that comes close is grooves. they're doing an excellent j
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the only magazine i can think of that comes close is grooves. they're doing an excellent job of covering various aspects of things that go bleep in the night. there might be others that i don't know about, of course... s. (you don't need glossy club shots, etc. to be a good music magazine.) On Tue, 8 Aug 2000, Jason Birchmeier wrote:
quoted 1 line I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim.> I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim.
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2000-08-06 18:52Irene McCRE: [idm] Interesting article: > As the old Chas and Dave song put it, "Nice legs, shame a
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quoted 2 lines As the old Chas and Dave song put it, "Nice legs, shame about the> As the old Chas and Dave song put it, "Nice legs, shame about the > face."
I remember this line as coming from The Monks' excellent album "Bad Habits" (with to-be-expected cheezy cover of a nun, harrharr) where they also went "nice legs, shame about the boat race" in true rhyming slang style. Who were Chas and Dave? I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-08 17:18alex_tea> > I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim. what about M8 those cover shot
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quoted 1 line I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim.> > I want a Red Herring for electronic music, not a Maxim.
what about M8 those cover shots look really appealing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-08-08 18:05alex_teasorry. it was a joke. it's from london, and the covers feature barely clothed girls. appar
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sorry. it was a joke. it's from london, and the covers feature barely clothed girls. apparently a "clubbing" mag. i have only seen posters on the tube. sorry! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org