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I know this is going to sound like a joke, but I just listened to the new ZZ Top album (hey, this job has its perks) and, to my utter shock, heard what sounded like a blatant rip-off of Ae's "Second Bad Vilbel" rhythm. If you have a promo (I wouldn't recommend buying it), check out track 8 on ZZ Top's _XXX_ album; it's called "Dreadmonboogaloo." I'm sure Booth & Brown would be flattered. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: solvent- solvently one listens [suction]

Well Frank Beard and the main bearded dude came by the Ninja Tune office about 2 years ago. They actually seemed pretty in touch with what was going on in all music circles. And I quote "Herbaliser...alright...I got a tape we play before the gigs, it's got some electronic shit on it, I know what's going on". Also, someone from a record store told me he sold a Scorn record to a ZZ-Top guy...so there. They were actually fucking really cool guys. They hooked us up with some all access passes for their gig that night with Cheap Trick. We went and represented. So there...it's not inconceivable... Jeff

quoted 16 lines I know this is going to sound like a joke, but

>I know this is going to sound like a joke, but >I just listened to the new ZZ Top album (hey, this job >has its perks) and, to my utter shock, heard what >sounded like a blatant rip-off of Ae's "Second Bad >Vilbel" rhythm. If you have a promo (I wouldn't >recommend buying it), check out track 8 on ZZ Top's _XXX_ >album; it's called "Dreadmonboogaloo." I'm sure >Booth & Brown would be flattered. > >Dave Segal >Managing Editor/Alternative Press >Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool >Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org > >np: solvent- solvently one listens [suction] >

quoted 5 lines From: Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune <ninjeff@generation.net>

>From: Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune <ninjeff@generation.net> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: (idm) autechre/zz top connection >Date: Thu, Oct 7, 1999, 7:44 PM >

quoted 12 lines Well Frank Beard and the main bearded dude came by the Ninja Tune office

>Well Frank Beard and the main bearded dude came by the Ninja Tune office >about 2 years ago. They actually seemed pretty in touch with what was >going on in all music circles. And I quote "Herbaliser...alright...I got >a tape we play before the gigs, it's got some electronic shit on it, I >know what's going on". Also, someone from a record store told me he sold >a Scorn record to a ZZ-Top guy...so there. They were actually fucking >really cool guys. They hooked us up with some all access passes for their >gig that night with Cheap Trick. We went and represented. > >So there...it's not inconceivable... > >Jeff

I meant no disrespect to ZZ Top; it's refreshing to know that they're into good electronic music. I just thought it seemed really incongruous to hear Autechresque rhythms amid their usual high-tech boogie rock. Wonder why they didn't go farther with this new direction. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org

quoted 9 lines I know this is going to sound like a joke, but

> >>I know this is going to sound like a joke, but >>I just listened to the new ZZ Top album (hey, this job >>has its perks) and, to my utter shock, heard what >>sounded like a blatant rip-off of Ae's "Second Bad >>Vilbel" rhythm. If you have a promo (I wouldn't >>recommend buying it), check out track 8 on ZZ Top's _XXX_ >>album; it's called "Dreadmonboogaloo." I'm sure >>Booth & Brown would be flattered.

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Dave Segal wrote:

quoted 6 lines I meant no disrespect to ZZ Top; it's refreshing to know

> I meant no disrespect to ZZ Top; it's refreshing to know > that they're into good electronic music. I just thought it > seemed really incongruous to hear Autechresque rhythms > amid their usual high-tech boogie rock. Wonder why > they didn't go farther with this new direction. >

oh, god forbid you offend all those rabid zz top fans in idm land. jeez. zz top sucks. sucks. horrible, horrible. maybe they chose not to go in this new direction because they couldn't find a fitting break to go with Legs. jesus. she's got leeeegs! and she knows how to use them.. okay, that's enough. blegh. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. "

because then they'd be as fucking stupid as david bowie -steve In a message dated 99-10-08 10:08:36 EDT, segal@altpress.com writes: << I just thought it seemed really incongruous to hear Autechresque rhythms amid their usual high-tech boogie rock. Wonder why they didn't go farther with this new direction. >>

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> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve81778@aol.com [mailto:Steve81778@aol.com] > > because then they'd be as fucking stupid as david bowie

unfortunately this mail wasn't adorned with the sarcasm flag in Outlook. Was this just an oversight on your part Steve? Or did you truly mean this statement? m.

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Matthew Allen wrote:

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> > -----Original Message----- > > From: Steve81778@aol.com [mailto:Steve81778@aol.com] > > > > because then they'd be as fucking stupid as david bowie > > > unfortunately this mail wasn't adorned with the sarcasm flag in Outlook. Was > this just an oversight on your part Steve? Or did you truly mean this > statement? >

can i somewhat second steve's statement? ever since Outside (which i like, but...) Bowie has just been aping off everyone else's style. nothing unique any more. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. "

On Fri, 8 Oct 1999, Yonnie Lui wrote:

quoted 4 lines she's got leeeegs! [snip]

> > >she's got leeeegs! [snip] > > didn't Art of Noise use this for their sampling?!

i should hope not. - wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu " The ball is round. The game lasts ninety minutes. This much is fact. Everything else is just theory. "

quoted 3 lines can i somewhat second steve's statement? ever since Outside (which i like,

> can i somewhat second steve's statement? ever since Outside (which i like, > but...) Bowie has just been aping off everyone else's style. nothing > unique any more.

for all it's worth, 'earthling' was some of the most ridiculously obnoxious techno/drum n bass i've ever heard, yes, but the bowie take was quite original on its own. if you think about it, 'diamond dogs' was just normal rock n roll... but i'll take 'rebel rebel' over any rolling stones song anytime. that said, i'm not that crazy about david bowie but at least he has the merit of rarely doing the same thing twice. ~ david

thank you wells basically, ever since David Bowie has started on his quest to be relevant again (around Outside, maybe Buddha of Suburbia) he's made a complete ass of himself. sure Outside was kind of cool (though really just a sub-par Scott Walker album, i'd rather hear Tilt or Climate of Hunter any day) but Earthling? all this guitar rock with breakbeat shit is so fucking lame. all David Bowie ever did was rip-off stuff like Scott Walker, Beatles/John Lennon or Neu!/La Dusseldorf anyhow...i forgot whut i was saying, but does anyone really want to hear ZZTop do a fucking electronic album? peace steve In a message dated 99-10-08 14:50:09 EDT, s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu writes: << can i somewhat second steve's statement? ever since Outside (which i like, but...) Bowie has just been aping off everyone else's style. nothing unique any more. >>

There's a glowing review of the new ZZ Top album, "XXX" in today's Washington Post. ZZ claims the keyboard part in Dreadmonboogaloo is created with a "Roland groovebox. Something Rap DJs use" or something like that... anyway, if its on washingtonpost.com, you can read it for yourself... would be in the weekend section... read it for fun!!! Matt