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Did anyone notice outside the Jega interview in FAQT that there was a little column asking certain him what or who he didn't really care for and why? It turns out his answer to the question was the Warp label. He reasoned that he felt Warp wouldn't risk anything on signing an artist until they had proven themselves on another label. He went on to back up what he said by stating that Warp didn't sign Aphex until he had already released his select ambient works on R&S, as well as other artist like Jimi Tenor who had non-Warp releases before being picked up by Warp and also Squarepusher, who was on Spymania before being picked up by Warp. Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson was that they felt the whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in music. I thought it was an interesting point of view from Dylan. --Bill

but it were all debut albums by autechre, b12 and the black dog productions comp especially the Ae boys had released almost nothing at that time. At 20-7-99 -0400 17:33 , you wrote:

quoted 5 lines Did anyone notice outside the Jega interview in FAQT that there was a little

>Did anyone notice outside the Jega interview in FAQT that there was a little >column asking certain him what or who he didn't really care for and why? > >It turns out his answer to the question was the Warp label. He reasoned that >he felt Warp wouldn't risk anything on signing an artist until they had

proven

quoted 14 lines themselves on another label.

>themselves on another label. > >He went on to back up what he said by stating that Warp didn't sign Aphex >until he had already released his select ambient works on R&S, as well as >other artist like Jimi Tenor who had non-Warp releases before being picked up >by Warp and also Squarepusher, who was on Spymania before being picked up by >Warp. > >Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson was that they felt the >whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in music. > >I thought it was an interesting point of view from Dylan. > >--Bill

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--- obrienw <William.OBrien@Citadel.edu> wrote:

quoted 10 lines Did anyone notice outside the Jega interview in FAQT

> Did anyone notice outside the Jega interview in FAQT > that there was a little > column asking certain him what or who he didn't > really care for and why? > > It turns out his answer to the question was the Warp > label. He reasoned that > he felt Warp wouldn't risk anything on signing an > artist until they had proven > themselves on another label.

Even if that were the case, who cares? Warp did sign artists like Black Dog, LFO, B12, and Autechre, before they were known. I never heard of Max Tundra before Warp signed him. They are a highly respected label and have done an amazing job. Are they expected to only put out music by unknowns? Or are they should they sign people that excite them. > He went on to back up what he said by stating that

quoted 8 lines Warp didn't sign Aphex

> Warp didn't sign Aphex > until he had already released his select ambient > works on R&S, as well as > other artist like Jimi Tenor who had non-Warp > releases before being picked up > by Warp and also Squarepusher, who was on Spymania > before being picked up by > Warp.

So what? Does it really matter?

quoted 4 lines Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson

> Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson > was that they felt the > whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in > music.

That could be, I don't know. If so, then they were definitely wrong.

quoted 2 lines I thought it was an interesting point of view from

> I thought it was an interesting point of view from > Dylan.

Sounds like Jega could be a little jaded. Perhaps, Warp has turned down alot of his demos. I really liked his first ep on Skam, but he hasn't been that impressive since. His remix of Michael Fakesh and Mark Broom were nice. His tracks on MASK really sucked!! His album was also really boring. Sounded really generic Cheers _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

quoted 4 lines Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson

>> Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson >> was that they felt the >> whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in >> music.

although, urban legend says that Tom being signed was a result of certain Warp people's attendance at a Ninja Stealth night many years ago....prompting a 'no artist Ninja is interested in may play club night until contract is signed' rule. Don't take that as bitterness, I actually think's it pretty funny. I wholly support Warp, I think there a glowing example of how to survive on one's own terms. Take Care Jeff

quoted 4 lines Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson

> Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson > was that they felt the > whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in > music

I remember seeing a piece on Autechre in the NME in 94 or 95 when they said that they hated Drum'n'bass and then went on to diss it big time. Perhaps they said this coz of the pre-dominance of ragga at the time and of ignorance of the other facets of the music and because it was mainly a London 'ting to begin with. Perhaps this attitude was widespread within Warp at the time. The lesson here is, of course, never dismiss a genre of music, coz sooner or later some genius will come out that scene and make you look a fool. Remember this when Warp release their first Country & Western breakbeat single. _____________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk

Will Samuels:

quoted 3 lines Even if that were the case, who cares? Warp did sign

>Even if that were the case, who cares? Warp did sign >artists like Black Dog, LFO, B12, and Autechre, before >they were known.

Ouch. False, partly. Black Dog paid some *serious* dues before they were signed to Warp. B12 were also somewhat "established" before Electro-Soma came out, weren't they? driftwood:

quoted 1 line Remember this when Warp release their first Country & >Western breakbeat

>Remember this when Warp release their first Country & >Western breakbeat

single. Heh. From WarpNews: "The Broadcast album is very nearly finished. Expect new albums from Autechre, Aphex Twin, Mira Calix, Boards of Canada, LFO and the Rednex sometime before the end of the millenium." A couple years ago, back when that hellish Cotton Eyed Joe song was huge, the dj for our local dance radio show (EdgeClub) took all the copies of that record lying around the studio and broke em in half on the air. It was funny. -c- "I am a cipher. Wrapped in an enigma. Smothered in secret sauce."

quoted 4 lines A couple years ago, back when that hellish Cotton Eyed Joe song was huge,

> A couple years ago, back when that hellish Cotton Eyed Joe song was huge, > the dj for our local dance radio show (EdgeClub) took all the copies of > that record lying around the studio and broke em in half on the air. It was > funny.

I don't remember that specifically, I do remember he was threatening it. And I do remember that it seemed to not be heard anymore and I really liked that... That was probably Jeff K though, and not Merritt, yeah?

--- tesserae <cmc1@email.ecaard.com> wrote:

quoted 13 lines Will Samuels:

> > Will Samuels: > >Even if that were the case, who cares? Warp did > sign > >artists like Black Dog, LFO, B12, and Autechre, > before > >they were known. > > Ouch. False, partly. Black Dog paid some *serious* > dues before they were > signed to Warp. B12 were also somewhat "established" > before Electro-Soma > came out, weren't they?

I know Black Dog started out with three very limited 12" singles, before Warp. And I don't think they really got world attention, like the Artificial Intelligence series gave them. I know b12 had some singles on their own label. I hardly think either band had "MADE IT" and were considered a "HIT". Even if so, I hardly think that Jega's comments mattered in the first place. Who really cares? Perhaps, Warp just has a better business strategy then alot of other smaller independents, because Warp artists certainly get better distributed and better known. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

quoted 11 lines Date: Wed, 21 Jul 99 20:49:34 -0500

> > Date: Wed, 21 Jul 99 20:49:34 -0500 > From: Jeff Waye/Ninja Tune <ninjeff@generation.net> > Subject: Re: (idm) Jega's comments on Warp in FAQT > > >> Apparently Warp's initial disinterest in Jenkinson > >> was that they felt the > >> whole realm of drum and bass was just a phase in > >> music. > > although, urban legend says that Tom being signed was a result of

certain

quoted 2 lines Warp people's attendance at a Ninja Stealth night many years

> Warp people's attendance at a Ninja Stealth night many years > ago....prompting a 'no artist Ninja is interested in may play club

night

quoted 1 line until contract is signed' rule.

> until contract is signed' rule.

Definite UL. Tom Jenkinson was signed to Worm Interface at the time and they let him go to Warp.