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1999-07-07 18:13Joanisse, Robertspeaking of electronic jazz, the much publicised innerzone orchestra set last night at the

From:: Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca>
To:: 'idm' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 7 Jul 1999 14:13:54 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher

speaking of electronic jazz, the much publicised innerzone orchestra set last night at the montreal jazzfest was pretty amazing. 125,000 people were in attendance, they said. can't wait for "programmed". but i haven't yet sorted out if its was "free jazz" or "fusion jazz". hmmm.... ----Original Message---- Crtrdge003@aol.com wrote:

quoted 10 lines you don't consider "music is" to be free jazz? I think it's very much

> you don't consider "music is" to be free jazz? I think it's very much so. > It's also electronic... well not 100%.. but it still is. >>no. 'music is rotted one note' is unmistakably fusion jazz. free jazz >>is different: think coltrane, sun ra, pharoah sanders, & more recently >>borah bergman, anthony braxton, peter bro:tzmann, ellery eskelin... i >>could namecheck for hours, the bottom line being that all improvisation >>is not free jazz although free jazz _is_ based on improvisation, though >>th a certain set of sounds & tones, & a particular research, but a >>eply abstracted _jazz_ root, whereas fusion gets its form from genres >>her than jazz (rock, electronic, etc.)

1999-07-07 18:56jeff salamonspeaking of electro-jazz, a question about the new isotope217 record -- which is swell. tr

From:: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com>
To:: Joanisse, Robert <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca>
Cc:: 'idm' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 13:56:16 -0500
Subject:: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher

speaking of electro-jazz, a question about the new isotope217 record -- which is swell. track number five is built on top of this bass (or is it guitar?) figure that just sort of goes bum-bum-bumbumbum-bum-bumbum. it's very very familiar to me, but i can't place exactly where it's copped from. can anyone who's heard the record help me out? jeff

1999-07-07 18:58Maximilien Lincourt"Joanisse, Robert" wrote: > > speaking of electronic jazz, the much publicised innerzone o

From:: Maximilien Lincourt <max@toonboom.com>
Cc:: 'idm' <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 14:58:09 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher

"Joanisse, Robert" wrote:

quoted 7 lines speaking of electronic jazz, the much publicised innerzone orchestra set

> > speaking of electronic jazz, the much publicised innerzone orchestra set > last night at the montreal jazzfest was pretty amazing. 125,000 people were > in attendance, they said. can't wait for "programmed". but i haven't yet > sorted out if its was "free jazz" or "fusion jazz". hmmm.... > >

Maybe that's why it was boring ... I was hoping for something groovy, but it wasn't, except maybe for the last piece of the show, instead we were served one drum solo, one piano solo, one "folk" song, 2 or 3 afro-cuban tribal dances and percussions, and some background echo and effects ... but not much else... I was expecting some really cool jazz-techno-house fusion... just to show people that techno is not just "big beats" but can also be fun to listen to ... even if you're not into it. Kid Koala did a bit of what I liked, at the end of his 5 mins. a bit of groovy scratching and turn-tabling. but it lasted about 5 mins ... before him, was wiz-kid A-Track who did a small set also ... I may be harsh, but I was expecting something way different. I was not at all in the mood for tribal dances, of folkish song... or even way to much mc's. Max. -- Maximilien Lincourt, B. info., Software developer mailto:max@toonboom.com http://www.toonboom.com

1999-07-07 20:38Dave Segal>From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com> >To: "Joanisse, Robert" <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.c

From:: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 16:38:09 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher

quoted 5 lines From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com>

>From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com> >To: "Joanisse, Robert" <Robert.Joanisse@microcell.ca> >Subject: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher >Date: Wed, Jul 7, 1999, 2:56 PM >

quoted 6 lines speaking of electro-jazz, a question about the new isotope217 record --

>speaking of electro-jazz, a question about the new isotope217 record -- >which is swell. track number five is built on top of this bass (or is it >guitar?) figure that just sort of goes bum-bum-bumbumbum-bum-bumbum. >it's very very familiar to me, but i can't place exactly where it's >copped from. can anyone who's heard the record help me out? >jeff

Jeff-- I'm not certain, but it sounds close to something Pigbag did in the early 80s. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: isotope217- utonian automatic [thrill jockey]

1999-07-07 22:11Dave Segal>From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com> >To: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com> >Subject: Re: (

From:: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 07 Jul 1999 18:11:01 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher

quoted 5 lines From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com>

>From: jeff salamon <kamandi@bga.com> >To: Dave Segal <segal@altpress.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) electronic jazz (WAS: []pusher >Date: Wed, Jul 7, 1999, 4:46 PM >

quoted 10 lines Dave Segal wrote:

>Dave Segal wrote: >> > >> Jeff-- >> I'm not certain, but it sounds close to something >> Pigbag did in the early 80s. >> >i suspect pigbag swiped it from the same place, my esteemed colleague. i >think it's miles or herbie or sumthin' along those lines. >jeff

I thought of Miles and Herbie, too, but I imagine the sampling fees would be too exorbitant for a Thrill Jockey band to afford, whereas they could nick a Pigbag bass line and nobody--save a few old trainspotters--would notice. Dave Segal Managing Editor/Alternative Press Reviews/BPM/Reissue Redux/Origins Of Cool Secret Ions on WCSB Thursdays 9-11PM EST www.wcsb.org np: bill laswell- imaginary cuba: deconstructing havana [wicklow]