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1999-05-14 14:49Peter BeckerI have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC. Probably still in print in

From:: Peter Becker <bpm0@interport.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:49:20 -0500
Subject:: (idm) Harmonia- and more

I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC. Probably still in print in some fashion. Maybe the mail order and distributor types on this list know more details? Vat? David H? skimo? Lance? you usually have answers * to every discography question in the world*! Anyways, Harmonia: Harmonia is as essential to a "roots of idm" collection as *any* detroit, Kraftwerk, acid or any oldie- Amazing *driving* feeling moving music. The vinyl, in case you so desire and when you can ever find it, runs $30-65 for early Brain material, depending on the variants. Also, Anyone know if its possible to filter email adresses from incoming list *digests*? Just wondering... Also, re: Sean's post concerning buying label identity over label content: I too agree with the first responders comment that this type of consumer tactic can be applied to *many* labels in *many* genres. I think you are right by saying that certain folks buy up releases and keep them *even if the music sucks* merely because they're on ________label. I also think this isn't merely a SKAM phenomenon, as some people indeed * do* love many labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100 *perfect* label though, personally. Peter np: NWW- Who can I turn to Stereo

quoted 11 lines Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:33:05 -0700

>Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 05:33:05 -0700 >From: "Michael Upton" <jet.jaguar@eudoramail.com> >Just talking with a new found friend last night about the two Harmonia >albums, and he was saying he'd rate them as two of the best albums >evvvvvvvvver. He was very emphatic about how timeless they were, and how >it was such a bummer that everyone went "Kraut-rock supergroup? >Whatever..." because it combined everything cool about Cluster and Neu!.. >I'm intrigued, to say the least. > >Can anyone give any more info? CD re-releases? Readily available? All the >usual crap. :-)

1999-05-14 14:19Moonlight>some people indeed *do* love many >labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100 *per

From:: Moonlight <roesch@augsburg.edu>
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Date:: Fri, 14 May 1999 09:19:30 -0500
Subject:: (idm) perfect labels?
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quoted 2 lines some people indeed *do* love many

>some people indeed *do* love many >labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100 *perfect* label though,

Pork is perfect! The even save you most of the trouble cos most of their 12" tracks are available on the album. (shameless plug for my favorite label. Check the site in my URL.) Asphodel is pretty close too, though i haven't heard all their stuff. And of course YMMV. _________________________________ Adam Roesch / roesch@augsburg.edu Augsburg College / Minneapolis / MN / USA Visit my Fila Brazillia/Pork Recordings fan site: http://dogbert.augsburg.edu/~roesch/pork/ "The only disease we need in our blood is love" TRICKY

1999-05-14 22:03Andrew Hime> >some people indeed *do* love many > >labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100

From:: Andrew Hime <hime@kali.wf.net>
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Date:: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:03:20 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) perfect labels?
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quoted 7 lines some people indeed *do* love many

> >some people indeed *do* love many > >labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100 *perfect* label though, > > Pork is perfect! > The even save you most of the trouble cos most of their 12" tracks are > available on the album. (shameless plug for my favorite label. Check the > site in my URL.)

I get a lot of enjoyment out of Skint and Hardkiss/Sunburn, but I imagine that's a bit too DDM for the list at large.

1999-05-17 01:29Hrvatski>"the roots of idm", a public service >presented to the idm community by >miau-miau intern

From:: Hrvatski <sheket@tiac.net>
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Date:: Sun, 16 May 1999 21:29:23 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) Harmonia- and more
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quoted 4 lines "the roots of idm", a public service

>"the roots of idm", a public service >presented to the idm community by >miau-miau international, with love. >all mp3s 128-bit stereo.

Not sure about the logistics of hosting just about anything you deem 'listworthy' on yr personal website. You must some some real nice/liberal ISP. Check w/the feds first man, avoid any & all strife...

quoted 1 line I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC.

>I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC.

Oh yeah, VERY in print. Japan only, $24 sounds right. Incidentally the Germanofon versions are total shite, mastered from POOR vinyl copies. I had the Germanafon 'Music Von', it actually skips rather audibly in a few places & sounds generally ass. Japanes ones are legit (Polydor) master tape reishes, 20 bit I believe. Sound very full-of-life... Check Bent Crayon or Forced Exposure, I doubt PJ will dig this deep into seminal back catalogue...

quoted 7 lines From: "Michael Upton" <jet.jaguar@eudoramail.com>

>>From: "Michael Upton" <jet.jaguar@eudoramail.com> >>Just talking with a new found friend last night about the two Harmonia >>albums, and he was saying he'd rate them as two of the best albums >>evvvvvvvvver. He was very emphatic about how timeless they were, and how >>it was such a bummer that everyone went "Kraut-rock supergroup? >>Whatever..." because it combined everything cool about Cluster and Neu!.. >>I'm intrigued, to say the least.

They're definitely in my top 5 ever of Kraut/Psych records. Harmonia was Moebius/Roedelius (Cluster) w/Rother (Neu). Perfect mix of Cluster's synth vocabulary & Neu's beat. And some nice phased/fuzzed guitar bits to boot. "Music Von Harmonia", album #1: clearly the best. Ultimate bliss out, etc... Essential. -Våt ____________________ Reckankreuzungsklankewerkzeuge PO BOX 382864. Cambridge, MA 02238 http://www.tiac.net/users/sheket/index.html

1999-06-30 17:51R. LimOn Sun, 16 May 1999, Hrvatski wrote: > >I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought

From:: R. Lim <rlim@escape.com>
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Date:: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 13:51:42 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Harmonia- and more
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On Sun, 16 May 1999, Hrvatski wrote:

quoted 5 lines I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC.

> >I have them as Japanese imports ( $24? ). I bought them in NYC. > > Oh yeah, VERY in print. Japan only, $24 sounds right. > Incidentally the Germanofon versions are total shite, mastered from POOR > vinyl copies.

Hrrm. There was also a legit Brain issue on CD (in the early/mid 90s back when they actually did this kind of thing- I think Guru Guru's _Kanguru_ was the only other title of interest that made it out this way). It was about $16 (look for the "Special Low Price" sticker), appeared to be from master tapes and used to be available from FE a long time ago. I also heard that there was a super budget line issue of the first Faust on a German label whose product was typically displayed in the check-out lines of supermarkets.

quoted 5 lines They're definitely in my top 5 ever of Kraut/Psych records.

> They're definitely in my top 5 ever of Kraut/Psych records. > Harmonia was Moebius/Roedelius (Cluster) w/Rother (Neu). > Perfect mix of Cluster's synth vocabulary & Neu's beat. > And some nice phased/fuzzed guitar bits to boot. > "Music Von Harmonia", album #1: clearly the best.

Agreed that _Deluxe_ was kind of a let down. I don't know if MVH would make my top five of that "scene" (which would most likely be populated with boring unDM records like _Yeti_, _Malesch_ et al), though Cluster _II_ probably would. One could (if fed a lot of drugs) make a claim that _II_ was an attempt to do IDM using guitars and non-sequencer electronics. Surely there are few better things in the world than the languid unfolding phasing of "Fur Immer" (only a disappointing 14 minutes long, goddamn it- "This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my lawsuit against _The Neverending Story_"...). (One and a half months late, sorry), -rob

1999-05-14 15:19Robert Robichaud>I also think this isn't merely a SKAM phenomenon, as some people indeed * >do* love many

From:: Robert Robichaud <rbichaud@ptialaska.net>
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Date:: Fri, 14 May 1999 07:19:27 -0800 (AKDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) Harmonia- and more

quoted 4 lines I also think this isn't merely a SKAM phenomenon, as some people indeed *

>I also think this isn't merely a SKAM phenomenon, as some people indeed * >do* love many >labels entire catalogs. I have yet to find a %100 *perfect* label though, >personally.

Well, I think PSF is a good candidate for the "perfect label" award. Almost all of their over 100 releases can easily be categorized as essential (at least for my tastes), and even though the audience for most of their stuff is probably much more limited than that of Skam's, the vast majority of their output is made readily available and seems to stay in print for quite a while. On the other hand, a good analogy to Skam in the contemporary psych world would be Xotic Mind, who make most of their releases impossible to find on purpose. Great label, but it can get quite annoying at times, just like Skam. Sorry to go on about psych-related stuff on an IDM list, anyway. I do think they're the two genres that have the highest ratio of collector-nonsense in all of underground music, though. --- Robert Robichaud E-Mail: rbichaud@ptialaska.net

1999-05-17 12:03Miau-Miau International>>"the roots of idm", a public service >>presented to the idm community by >>miau-miau int

From:: Miau-Miau International <miaumiau@earthlink.net>
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Date:: Mon, 17 May 99 12:03:47 -0000
Subject:: Re: (idm) Harmonia- and more

quoted 8 lines "the roots of idm", a public service

>>"the roots of idm", a public service >>presented to the idm community by >>miau-miau international, with love. >>all mp3s 128-bit stereo. > >Not sure about the logistics of hosting just about anything you deem >'listworthy' on yr personal website. You must some some real nice/liberal >ISP. Check w/the feds first man, avoid any & all strife...

point well taken, våt. miss miau-miau checked with the legal team up at the National Council for Electronic Arts. as per their advice, the series will indeed run its full 12 weeks -- just don't expect much in the way of documentation. full info on the twelve tracks will be posted at the series' conclusion. rest assured the motivated downloader will be richly rewarded. this week's offering comes down in three days.... _________________________________________ miau-miau international _________________________________________ experimental/electronic/idm _________________________________________ http://www.miau-miau.com _________________________________________ email: info@miau-miau.com

1999-05-24 08:11zimboas far as i can tell there is no credit given to week 2 of "roots of idm" (http://home.ear

From:: zimbo <tofu@uci.edu>
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Date:: Mon, 24 May 1999 01:11:09 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: (idm) week 2 of roots of idm
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as far as i can tell there is no credit given to week 2 of "roots of idm" (http://home.earthlink.net/~miaumiau/roots.html) is this silver apples? i'll be happy if not, as that will mean there were more bands like this at the time :) and why no credit given? curious and curiouser.. chris.

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